new Google Groups question

[dougP]

Apparently the classic format is now history.  My question is:  Is there any indicator as to which posts are updated or new?  In the classic format, new & updated posts were bolded.  Hopefully it's just these old eyes missing something obvious, but I don't see any way to see the difference.  Does anyone know or see some indicator that I'm missing?

Thx,

Doug peterson

[Brewster Fong]

The new group sucks. But, new messages should be highlighted (bold). If so, then read what you want. Look for the 3 dots to mark as read for whatever you don't read. Good Luck!

[Ian A]

I'm still using classic. On Android on desktop mode and then in settings you can switch back to Classic and then reload mobile view and it gives you Classic view in mobile.

On the PC just go into settings and switch select switch to Classic.

A Google search on switching back to Classic view should list the instructions also.

IanA

[Nick Payne]

Switch back to classic view has disappeared from my settings. Looks like it's history.

[dougP]

That's my experience.  Classic was there yesterday & gone today.  Settings only includes global, report, & help now.  I'll see if I can detect the bold but it's nowhere near as much more bold than in classic.  Seems kinda silly.  I liked the bold in the classic esp because it indicated new posts on threads. 

Oh, well.

doug

[Ian A]

That's disappointing. I am still on Classic view. I don't suppose that will last now.

Perhaps the new format will be tweaked over time to make it more user-friendly. Or maybe it's the beginning of the end for Groups as we know it.

IanA

[True Golden]

I can click on a riv list email subject line and be directed to Google groups to read...no problem. 

Using same android phone ibob list insists I sign in b4 viewing. 

Frustrating!!!

Paul in Dallas 

[Mark Roland]

I just got involuntarily forced into the new view.  How this is an improvement I have no idea. The nice easy visual parameters that let you know what you've read, how many messages have posted since, who the OP was, etc., all knowable at a glance. I see that top posts have also been removed. No doubt a temporary glitch. I guess Google has to justify all those highly paid software engineers in some way or another. I don't think I am being a retrogrouch when I say it sucks.

[Mark Roland]

And talk about dumb and redundant/not necessary, after I post, a comment comes up New Message Posted/ View Message. You hit View Message, then it comes up New Message from Mark Roland. Really? Who is that? In front of the message is a refresh circular arrow. You must now hit this (third step) to finally see the message. At least you know who it's from. Sheesh.

[Ian A]

I got bumped too. Now on the "new and improved" version. It is a lot clunkier in mobile view than Classic. In order to reply to this thread I had to switch my Android device to desktop mode. It's still usable, but so far I'm not enjoying the new interface.

IanA

[Kieran J]

The new interface is somehow both more blank AND more cluttered than before. UI nightmare IMO. Google has ignored this platform for years, only now to swoop in and hose it up. Way to go :-\

KJ

[George Schick]

Ditto all the above comments.  It does suck.  Not near the flexibility on the settings menu that the classic version had.  Must have to do with reducing storage space on their myriad of web hosting servers.

[Eamon Nordquist]

Same here. It’s unusable on my iPhone.

Eamon

Seattle 

On Tuesday, November 10, 2020 at 8:40:34 PM UTC-8 Nick Payne wrote:

[Eamon Nordquist]

I think I am done dealing with this new format. It's too difficult and annoying for me to read. Later, folks!

Eamon

[eddietheflay]

why doesn't it show messages with last posting at the top so you don't have to scroll down to find the last in?

why are not the new messages in a bolder font so you can easily tell the old from the new?

i only view on my pc desktop.

[Ben Mihovk]

I'm not volunteering for this because I don't have the time or patience or skills...but I belong to another forum where people geek out about something that most people don't care about (putters...you know...for golf?).  It runs on forum called Simple Machines (https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php) and it's very easy to find your way around, you can have categories for posts, registered members, you can assign people as Moderators...etc...

Downsides...

I'm guessing you can't transfer over old threads from Groups

Posting pictures does require a small amount of HTML knowhow 

It's way easier to just participate on Facebook (this other community is losing participants to Facebook...there are people like me who like to sit with a coffee, read posts, write thoughtful responses, etc... who love the Simple Machines format, and there are people who want to post a picture of a new putter instantly and get a bunch of "likes"....they're more into Facebook).

I dunno...just a thought...

Ben "Definitely Not Volunteering for This" Mihovk 

[Nathan Mattia]

Where do you find the Sticky Messages that used to appear at the top of the board, such as the Rivendell Timeline and the Riv Reader links?

[J Schwartz]

Does anyone know how to get this group to play nice (nicer) with IOS?

[Cyclofiend Jim]

I will say that even in the past 2 or 3 weeks there have been a lot of changes (most for the better) to the new Google Groups format.
They've made a few management things easier, which I like, but have some other new aspects which cause issues.

At this time, I have no plans to try to migrate this group elsewhere. 

As with everything google-ish, things will be iterated to address problems. Commenting here is good for solutions you have found or other workarounds , but please make sure you are providing feedback to google if you are seeing issues.  On the desktop version, there is a specific tool at the very top of your browser tab window. Please use that - they do actually respond and address reported issues.

Screenshot attached.

Be well, stay safe!

- Jim / admin

On Tuesday, November 10, 2020 at 3:25:12 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:

[Patrick Moore]

Jim: Once again, thanks for curating this list.

More generally, this is an active thread on the RBW, IBob, and CR lists. Me, gmail and list traffic -- RBW, IBob, CR -- is behaving on my 2 Macs and my iPhone just as it has been doing for the last10 or 15 years; I guess I don't really want to know what I'm missing.

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[Joe Bernard]

It (sort of) works for me on the web now. I have a mobile view on my Android for reading, then I can hit the three dots up there in the right corner to get Desktop and reply to threads that way. It's livable.