Your lockable commuter thread

[Jason Fuller]

Hey friends, this is a thinly veiled excuse to post my recent acquisition: a '92 XO-2. I had a '92 XO-1 (also white) as some of you've seen, which I dialed in pretty nice but ultimately didn't have a practical need for, so I recently sold it to a friend. The XO-2 might not have the clout but it does have increased tire clearance and canti brakes (without the excessively bloated value of a '93 XO-1), and that means it would make a great all-rounder and commuter for me. 

Currently I have a Clem H for this purpose, but it's pretty overbuilt for what I need, and I'm hoping that this will be a cost-effective way to have the zippier all-rounder I've been craving. My intention was to jump on the Charlie H Gallop, but if this works out I won't need to!

It will get some racks and Naches Pass tires but will try to keep the upgrades to a minimum (yeah... we'll see how that goes). 

ANYWAY, please feel free to share what you use for this purpose, ideally the bike you're comfortable leaving locked up outside the bar for a couple hours! 

[Robert Tilley]

This is mine. It's my rain bike really but it's the one I don't mind locking up anywhere. It's stock for the most part and had very low miles when picked it up a couple years ago.

https://roberttilley.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Trek-830-1995/i-FDZJV3L/A

Robert Tilley

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[Sky Coulter]

Looks pretty sweet!

Sky in new west

On Sep 12, 2020, at 3:50 PM, Jason Fuller <jtf.f...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey friends, this is a thinly veiled excuse to post my recent acquisition: a '92 XO-2. I had a '92 XO-1 (also white) as some of you've seen, which I dialed in pretty nice but ultimately didn't have a practical need for, so I recently sold it to a friend. The XO-2 might not have the clout but it does have increased tire clearance and canti brakes (without the excessively bloated value of a '93 XO-1), and that means it would make a great all-rounder and commuter for me. 

Currently I have a Clem H for this purpose, but it's pretty overbuilt for what I need, and I'm hoping that this will be a cost-effective way to have the zippier all-rounder I've been craving. My intention was to jump on the Charlie H Gallop, but if this works out I won't need to!

It will get some racks and Naches Pass tires but will try to keep the upgrades to a minimum (yeah... we'll see how that goes). 

ANYWAY, please feel free to share what you use for this purpose, ideally the bike you're comfortable leaving locked up outside the bar for a couple hours! 

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[Steven Sweedler]

Mine is a ‘92 Stumpjumper built with my usual 737 parts, this one sports 2.35 Big Apples.Most of the time there is a Hoss saddlebag  hanging from the saddle onto the rack. Steve

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[Jingy]

You need to cover up the graphix so they don't know it's such a desirable collector bike!

[Brady Smith]

My Jamis Aurora. I’ve put around 10,000 miles on this bike over the last six years—the only original parts are the derailleurs and the seat post. Here it is with a mix of Rivendell and VO parts. 

[Lucky]

Picked up this bike to be a beater camping bike, something I wouldn't mind leaving outside places where I don't want to leave my Atlantis. Then fell in love so hard with it. 

[Patrick Moore]

I am thinking of turning my 2003 26" wheel Riv Road custom into a lockable beater; how is that for extravagance? Seriously, it's a 26" wheel road bike made for calipers, but I mean to try the initial canti fork Chauncey made for the 531 AM-hub replacement which will reduce the head angle a bit but for a beater that should not matter, especially if it lets me use 42 mm tires in place of the 28s I had been using. In the rear I'd have to install a coaster brake or fixed hub; I think that a 42 will fit there without the caliper (or fender, unfortunately). I'd build it with -- well, as to bar, I don't know. My left palm generally gets pressure-sore after just a few miles on anything except a drop bar, but perhaps an Albastache well set up might work. All in the future, as I have 3 projects in the queue ahead of that.

The frameset has custom f and r racks and would make a dandy grocery bike. I did replace it in part because the bike felt "sluggish" compared to its 1999 elder brother and, at 7 lb +/- for f+f+hs, it must have stout tubing.

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[Patrick Moore]

Jason: I thought the 1992 came exclusively with caliper brakes and it was only the 1993 that took cantilevers. Am I wrong about this or are you wrong about the year of your bike?

I owned a 55 cm 1992, and it was nice, but the calipers were indeed limiting.

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[Jason Fuller]

Steven - I adore your bike with the heavily patina'd fenders. That's really the spirit of this thread. 
Lucky - I know that feeling. Heck, that's me with my '71 Raleigh folding bike. I use it almost exclusively for locking up where I don't feel comfortable locking any other bike up, yet I am highly attached to it. Go figure. 

Patrick - I can't claim to be an expert on this but my understanding is that both '92 and '93 XO-2 are canti, only the '93 is lugged though and mine is TIG.  The '92 XO-1 is caliper though.  I do think this '92 XO-2 is a bargain though since it has the tire clearance and brakes that separate the '93 XO-1 from the '92 model!  All it's missing is the lighter gauge tubing, but it's no pig either. The geometry is beckoning for drops, so I'm currently searching out a 46 or 48cm Noodle and some TRP levers! 

[kim young]

Yeah! Really love those ratt fenders, too. 

 

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[Patrick Moore]

XO2, not XO1, you are right -- my mistake, sorry.

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[ascpgh]

Steve, I had that same frame as a warranty replacement of my '89 Mark's magenta/DiNucci green StumpJumper. 

Jason, I used my '93 XO-2 (purple, lugged) to commute. I found it to ride harshly because of its targeted use range and was too small for me in its biggest size as someone earlier pointed out so handling was off as well. 

My current rack bait is a Surly Disc Trucker in dark green beneath a patina of daily use I let collect until is includes winter road ice melter. That one prefaced by a Karate Monkey that was my test bed for drop bars and disc brakes. 

Andy Cheatham

Pittsburgh

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Mine is a ‘92 Stumpjumper built with my usual 737 parts, this one sports 2.35 Big Apples.Most of the time there is a Hoss saddlebag  hanging from the saddle onto the rack. Steve

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This is mine. It's my rain bike really but it's the one I don't mind locking up anywhere. It's stock for the most part and had very low miles when picked it up a couple years ago.

https://roberttilley.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Trek-830-1995/i-FDZJV3L/A

Robert Tilley

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Hey friends, this is a thinly veiled excuse to post my recent acquisition: a '92 XO-2. I had a '92 XO-1 (also white) as some of you've seen, which I dialed in pretty nice but ultimately didn't have a practical need for, so I recently sold it to a friend. The XO-2 might not have the clout but it does have increased tire clearance and canti brakes (without the excessively bloated value of a '93 XO-1), and that means it would make a great all-rounder and commuter for me. 

Currently I have a Clem H for this purpose, but it's pretty overbuilt for what I need, and I'm hoping that this will be a cost-effective way to have the zippier all-rounder I've been craving. My intention was to jump on the Charlie H Gallop, but if this works out I won't need to!

It will get some racks and Naches Pass tires but will try to keep the upgrades to a minimum (yeah... we'll see how that goes). 

ANYWAY, please feel free to share what you use for this purpose, ideally the bike you're comfortable leaving locked up outside the bar for a couple hours! 

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[Ray]

Hey Jason,

This is really interesting to me because I feel like you and I kind of moved in opposite directions. I recently bought an XO-2 for this exact purpose, but I found that I didn't really like the way that it carried a load and I needed a commuter that could carry a fair amount day-to-day and pick up groceries and such. So I actually sold a couple of other bikes and picked up a Clem as a replacement. Now though, I don't think I can get rid of the XO-2. It's such a fun ride. I think I'm going to keep it around as a zippy around-town, light trail/guest bike. I'll try to upload some pictures once I get them both set up the way I'd like.

Congratulations on the XO-2 find. I totally agree with you that it deserves more credit than it seems to get.

-Ray

[Jason Fuller]

Ray - ha, that is pretty interesting, and time will tell if I feel the same! I'll keep the Clem for a bit while I get to know the XO-2 for sure. But for me, I want something zippy enough that I'm not labouring to keep up with friends on road bikes but still comfortable enough for mixed surface commuting with a light load - I hope that it delivers there!  My 'Plan B' is to use it as a temporary solution until the Charlie H Gallop comes along, as the CHG looks like it would deliver both quickness and comfort, hopefully!

I just bought a drop bar setup for the XO-2 as well - will update with pics once everything's arrived and installed :) 

[Clark Fitzgerald]

I love these bikes. They all say loud and clear: "I get rode all the time, everywhere, in all conditions." Here's mine. Special features include:

- frame found abandoned down by the river

- taped on beer can disguising a Schmidt Edelux II dynamo light

- my name carved deeply into the saddle

- new Schwalbe Kojak tires. I wasn't very good at keeping sealant in my tubeless Compass Rat Traps, and decided I prefer tubes for this build.

[Clark Fitzgerald]

Jason, great theme for a thread!

[Jason Fuller]

I love the beer can over the Edelux trick!

[Ben Mihovk]

I love this thread!

I just ordered an Atlantis and have been riding this for about ten months...

It's a Linus Altore 7 that I Riv'd up this summer. Dirt drop stem (bike is too small for me as you can see from the SUPER jacked up post and stem), B17, cork grips with two coats of Shellac, switched to a Sunrace thumbie and installed it inside the left handlebar. Since this picture was taken I put on 35mm Panaracer Tourguard tires for a much comfier ride than the 28mm pictured, I took the fenders off because I couldn't fit the tire with them on (and honestly, the fenders were a little wide for those brakes). 

When my Atlantis comes (hopefully next week!!!) I might keep this bike...but I can take my bike inside at work (teacher with a storage room off of my classroom), so I don't see not riding the Atlantis for all my commuting. It's only a 20 minute ride. 

[Clark Fitzgerald]

I'm surprised others don't have chains on their Brooks saddles. Twice I've had my Brook's stolen while the bike was locked. 😢

[Ben Mihovk]

If I locked mine outside ever, I would certainly consider some kind of theft deterrent for my saddle. At the very least, I'd throw a cover on it. I'm in Omaha, and bike theft is not a non-issue here, but it's a lot lower than it would be other places I'm sure. 

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Everything's lockable with enough locks. Not that my Rosco is fancy, but I've got none better (other than another one! (that's real security, knowing you've got an immediate replacement)). As for saddle chains, I avoid locking up, but if I'm locking up I bring a U-lock and a long enough cable that I can wind through everything. If I know I won't need to lock up, I bring nothing, and appreciate an unencumbered bicycle, free of any security danglers.

But I never go anywhere without a bungee cord, which I like use to make for a rub free lockup. Bikes leaning against metal anything can turn bad quick, even thick tubed bikes will dent with very little pressure. Bungee goes around the frame and whatever I'm leaning against, then around itself a couple times to make the bumper/spacer. This also keeps your bike from ending up on it's side, a situation that only takes one drunken lout to make your bike a pretzel. 

Happy rolling and safe locking to you all.

-Kai

[tuolumne bikes]

With apologies to anyone that's already seen enough of Herbie on Instagram. All that's left of his original life is headset, fork and frame. The original equipment was five speed indexed. Now it's solid seven speed friction. While I wouldn't ride it to Tibet, this is my most comfortable riding and handling bike, and it's been all over, even on tour.

The timing of this thread is great for a reminder that Weds September 23 is the 2nd Annual Be Kind to Your Beater Bike Day. Fix, clean, upgrade, or do a great ride on your most basic bike and post with #bekindtoyourbeaterbikeday  This year BKYBBD lines up well with the northern California reschedules of Bike to Work Day as Bike to Anywhere Day on 9/24. It also could fit in with Adventure Cycling Association's Bike Your Park Day and Bike Travel Weekend which are 9/25-9/27.

If the air quality allows, and I can still ride up hills, Herbie will be hauling a pizza and thermos of tea to the top of Sonora Pass. Herb will get a new Tuolumne 108 sticker as a memento. The idea is to remember that even modest bikes can do great things. If we want biking to be more inclusive, we need to remember that not everyone can afford the spectacular bikes we love so much. Best way to celebrate? Support your local coop or community bike shop and their efforts to make biking more available and inviting for all.

Thanks, Carl

 

[Kurt Henry]

I'm late to the game, but hope I can still play.  I thought of this thread when I was unloading groceries from my trailer today, so grabbed my phone out of my pocket and got a quick picture.  It's not drive side, but I had it parked against the flower bed while I was unloading on the way into the garage, which is to the left in the pic.  The Arkel pack on the opposite side has my flat repair stuff, plus tools, and in this day and age, mask + hand sanitizer in the top pocket for easy access while running errands.  But it also pops off easily to take into stores if I want to just pile things in, pay, and throw it back in.  The trailer only goes on for big stuff, like grocery store or dog food runs.

Thanks!

Kurt Henry

Lancaster, PA USA

[Patrick Moore]

When I see such bikes -- very appealing; a modern and much better re-invention of the Raleigh Sport, of which I've owned at least 3 -- I think again about turning the 2003 Curt 26" wheel Riv Road custom into an upright, tourist-type bar, B 67-type saddle cruiser with the abandoned fork from the new Chauncey; and now that I have received the 1.8" RH Naches Pass ELs that are tubeless compatible, I dream about finding a pair of 26" tubeless rims [I let a pair get away, alas] and install these tires on them, with an SP dynohub in front and either a 2 speed kickback or that annoyingly otherwise unusable S3X hub (52 X 15 X 25.6" wheel = 89" direct 3rd/high -- for downhills to avoid the effect of the hub's lash; 66" underdrive 2nd for cruising; and 55" underdrive 1st for hills not too steep to require walking) on the rear wheel; this because the new Chauncey AM-hub bike just works so well with the 28 mm (labeld 32 mm) Elk Passes that I'm reluctant to mess with it by installing fatter tires. And it's not as if skinny 26" X 42 mm tires at a rock hard 40 psi are going to work well on the deep sandy patches that my 700C X 61.5 (just measured one yestiddy: 61.48 mm) at 20 psi roll over so well.

My immediate solution to the dilemma is to procrastinate ... But all y'all thoughts welcome.

In particular, I wonder about the bar. I find all bars -- I've used a very fair selection, including well over half a dozen dirt drop types -- except road-type drop bars uncomfortable after just a few miles, but I wonder if I simply need to be more radical in re-thinking my riding position. For a Bosco bar upright position, are you sitting with say 2/3 of your weight on saddle and close to 1/3 of it on the pedals, so that almost nothing is on your hands? If so, this sort of position would require a further rethinking of pedaling style (I like to lean forward and torque) and therefore of gearing. I can't see riding Kurt's example and not having too much weight on my hands for any sort of "tourist" bar. Kurt, your bar is a Bullmoose, right? What is your "default" cruising gear?

So, for those of you with Clems and bars 6" higher than saddle, sitting bolt upright, what sort of gear do you use for fastish cruising on the flat on smooth paved surfaces with no wind? Me, a 70 to 75+" gear is normal, depending on bike and crank and tires for an on-hoods road position; I imagine fully 10 gear inches lower sitting bolt upright with most of my weight on the saddle. Am I right?

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[Trevor Bradshaw]

Well said Carl. Well said.

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[Pete P]

My Atala.  Riv’d it up with old parts and even tried out those upright albatross handlebars. That is what converted me from uncomfortable road bars on my Atlantis (to choco bars- similar)

I like to use this bike if going downtown Minneapolis or at the home despot store. I do use cable to capture the saddle and wheel and a kryptonite for the frame front wheel and to the rack. If I lost it to a thief I’d be sad but I only ride within a 5 mile walking distance away.

[Pete P]

My Atala.  Riv’d it up with old parts and even tried out those upright albatross handlebars. That is what converted me from uncomfortable road bars on my Atlantis (to choco bars- similar) I won’t ever go back to drop bars.

I like to use this bike if going downtown Minneapolis or shopping at the home despot store. I do use a cable to capture the saddle and back wheel and a kryptonite for the frame/front wheel and to the bike rack. If I lost it to a thief I’d be very sad but I only ride within a 5 mile max walking distance away! This bike has a freewheel with 5 sprockets and only 2 usable chainrings up front. The gearing is simplicity- 28/38 up front and 15,17,19,24,30 in back. So my top gear is 68” I’ve already ground off the teeth of the outer to act as a chain guard. It is very comfortable. I should replace the stem as it is quite old. It’s a tall one which gets the h’bars way up there where I like. 

Pete

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[Patrick Moore]

That Atala reminds me of the old, 1973 IIRC, Motobecane Grand Record that I used as a grocery and errand beater. Light, 531 frame and fork, but long stays (45 cm to end of dropout). Original paint was not the best, and 30+ years had weathered it, so somewhat stealthy. Built it with good but inexpensive parts into fixed gear load carrier; oddly, best load carrier I've owned despite it's light frame; better than much stouter frames. 67" gear got me up even steep hills (back then, as a feisty 50-something). 

Oh, and the old early Raleigh Technium sports touring model that I owned just before the Motobecane: tank despite the bonded aluminum construction, flexy, but Cadillac ride with (then seemed very fat) 32 mm Vittoria clinchers.

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[Eric Norris]

Patrick:

Patrick:

The Motobecane stills sees regular use, now as a three-speed weekend rider. Rode it last night, as a matter of fact. 

There is indeed something about that bike that makes it a bunch of fun to ride. I’m sure the Reynolds 531 tubing has a lot to do with that—I’ve never been disappointed with a bike built with 531.

Still the original paint, although I put on some wipe-on clear coat from 3M to preserve the patina. I like the scuffs and scratches, which make for worry-free parking.

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[Patrick Moore]

Good to know. Are you using a S3X hub?

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[Nathan Mattia]

The 1992 RB-T.  Just enough room in a small saddle sack for a lock.  By far my fastest bike about town. I WISH there were more people around who knew enough to try and steal it.  The LBS mechanics give it the nod.  I give it Moustache Bars and a Brooks.

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[Kurt Henry]

Patrick, I apologize for the delay.  I don't use my laptop often and I was having trouble replying from my phone with the new version of google groups. Yes, those are Nitto/Fairweather Bullmoose bars for threadless setups. As for cruising gear, that's a good question.  I suspect in the 60-65" range, as that's what I've run fixed and single speed in the past.  It's hard to specify a cruising gear with this, though, as I've commonly either been pushed along as my trailer catches the wind one way, or held back by it the other.  As far as my position, I find that I'm a bit more weighted toward my hands than I might like, but my trips are usually a couple/few miles each way, so not a concern.  It's definitely comfortable enough for grocery runs or quick errands.

Kurt Henry
Lancaster, PA USA

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[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, Kurt, it was conscientious and courteous of you to reply, and the information is useful.

I am really torn. Somone on the CR list expressed interest in buying the frameset but I am intrigued by the thought of installing the original, slightly too short RBRD fork with canti bosses to take a 42 mm tire, and (need to check this!) putting a 42 in the rear without a caliper, on a wheel built around that otherwise apparently useless (*) S3X hub, with the otherwise overly large (and very spare) 52 t Pro 5 Vis ring and a 15 t cog for 89/67/56 gi (**) (89 for downhills because otherwise I detest the slop in the hub. That Bullmoose looks like a very good bar to try.

But this would mean no fenders, and even an upscale alternative to a Raleigh Sports needs fenders.

So I am starting to teeter back toward the side of selling the damned thing.

Or, does anyone want to trade (f + orig f + custom racks + well used 45 mm fenders + new 35 mm fenders + that canti fork) for a good quality rigid mountain bike, 26" or 29er, either a high-end steel NORBA-type without susp fork, or something like a Monocog 29er? Single speed preferred. Full bike from you, those parts from me, each takes care of own shipping.

I've thought out loud before about a nicely riding beater for our very occasional snows (but all the more fun for being very occasional; last winter saw quite a bit of snow, but Big Ones are not the best tire for it) and for general beating around without much care for the bike. A Monocog 29er would be perfect; I owned one circa 2010 and rode if for a few years before trading up to the Fargo.

Anyone? If so, let's talk. 

* Too much slop in the gears. The gaps are reversed to what a normal person would choose, with a big gap between direct and second, and a smaller gap between 2nd and 3d. If those ratios were reversed, much like those of the old ASC -- direct, 90%, then a climbing gear 75% of 3d/high/direct -- I would probably put up with the slop. 

** Downhill gear, because trying to keep up with a cruising gear on a long, fast downhill when there is 30* of slop in the cranks is no fun at all. It's even a pain in a 95% gear on this hub.

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[Tom Palmer]

Hi Patrick,

I tried to reply privately, but failed even on my desktop. 

In response to this- Or, does anyone want to trade (f + orig f + custom racks + well used 45 mm fenders + new 35 mm fenders + that canti fork) for a good quality rigid mountain bike, 26" or 29er, either a high-end steel NORBA-type without susp fork, or something like a Monocog 29er? Single speed preferred. Full bike from you, those parts from me, each takes care of own shipping.

I've thought out loud before about a nicely riding beater for our very occasional snows (but all the more fun for being very occasional; last winter saw quite a bit of snow, but Big Ones are not the best tire for it) and for general beating around without much care for the bike. A Monocog 29er would be perfect; I owned one circa 2010 and rode if for a few years before trading up to the Fargo.

I have a mint Specialized Stumpjumper that I might be willing to send your way. Around 93 so Norba geometry. it even has the matching green Umma Gumma tires. 

contact me privately at volvotom1964 at gmail if you have any interest. I also have a Redline Monocog. Is your S3X hub laced up to a 26" wheel? If so maybe we can talk on that too. I have one in 700c and the lash is not a big deal to me. 

Sorry all for broadcasting, I couldn't figure another way.

Tom Palmer

Twin Lake, MI USA

[Jason Fuller]

Gah, I am so bad at keeping a bike low key and cheap. Bought the bike for $250, put $1000 in parts on it immediately, and have a full dynamo setup on order too. But then I'm done right?!  

[Collin A]

Looks like your Sam if I'm being honest

[Clark Fitzgerald]

Those are some fine fender lines!

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[Jason Fuller]

Collin - I think you're completely right and it's somewhat intentional. Counter-intuitively I wanted a cheaper and a nicer version of the same thing basically so that a) I could leave the knobby tires on the Sam more often by having a "stand-in" on hand and b) have a more lockable, lower cost-of-maintenance bike for badweather days or what have you. I have come to find that this makes more sense than having bikes built for different types of riding for me, because I like rides that have a little bit of everything and that's what I tend to do. So the XO-2 and the Sam are basically weekday and weekend versions of each other now. 

Clark - thanks!  I actually would like to get the rear fenders a bit closer to the tire, but the seat stay bracket is at full extension here.  I hope to locate a longer one and adjust, but also, I'm leaving room for 42mm tires in the future :)  These Marathons were freebies from a buddy.   

[Josh Brown]

I wouldn't lock that up in my neighborhood! 

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[Jason Fuller]

Haha Josh, yeah I've made it into a "lock up for shorter periods and avoid bad areas" bike now. But I have this if I need to lock up for longer or in a questionable area  

[Nate Phipps]

1983 Trek 620 converted to 650b - highly lockable IMO (shh - just don't tell anyone the bags are worth more than the bike).

[Jason Fuller]

Aaaahhhh that Trek is so good... '83/'84 were some dang good years for Treks. Low key for sure but also hardly replaceable!  

I have a new-to-me commuter bike which I got in a complex trade deal that also saw the XO-2 leaving my hands.  It's fun. I haven't quite decided yet whether it's a long term bike for me - very well might be, but I also have been really pining for a VO Neutrino build, which would be pretty darn handy for my commute. 

[Clark Fitzgerald]

Sweet ride! Jason, how does that Crust fork ride loaded and unloaded?

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[Jason Fuller]

What's impressive about it is that it rides more or less the same in either condition - it's pretty neutral in either situation, which is quite appropriate!  I also hadn't considered that it actually makes the bike more compact overall with the smaller front wheel, which is handy for city use. 

[Clark Fitzgerald]

That is impressive. Such a clever idea, that fork.

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[Andrew Scherer]

I don't know how I've overlooked this thread. Last winter I repurposed a 1971 Raleigh International frame to replace a Raleigh Sports for commuting and shopping in NYC. Sturmey 8-speed, 700x35 Paselas, VO Tourist bars and my trusty B66. Commuted to work only once before Covid but it regularly brings home 4-5 bags of groceries in Linus canvas rollups in the rear and an Acorn basket bag up front. Since this pic I've added a dynamo hub and lighting.

Andy Scherer

New York, NY

[Jason Fuller]

Bringing this ol' one back for my new (to me) Bridgestone MB-3 that I scored for free off Craigslist (and fairly priced - it had been stored outside for decades, had dents of concerning size, and generally needed a lot of work to be a $200 bike). Traded some stuff, dug around my parts bin, and everything just kind of fell into place in such a perfect way. It's now my commuter, lock up, and general go-to bike for daily errand use. 

[WETH]

Jason,

Nice bike and a great score on your part.

My lockable commuter and oh so fun to ride bike is my 1994 Bridgestone RBT.  I've put 6,000 commuting miles on it in two years. 

Erl

Kensington, MD

[Ashwath Akirekadu]

That's a cool bike!  Fully functional, yet not too much worry while you are doing your things with the bike is locked outside.  There's a valid N+1 case for this type of bike!

I have been using my Roadini for the occasions I have to keep the bike locked.  Roadini is quite nondescript, still it is hard to feel fully at ease knowing that I'd need ~$1800 to put together one like this again (if I can find a frame somehow)

[Clark Fitzgerald]

Sweet bikes! My cousin was looking for his first bike at 34 years old, and I got this for him. I wish I would have had something like this for my first bike. I’ve been riding it, and feel like it offers  90% of the functionality of my Rivendell at 1/10th the price. 

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[brendonoid]

Wait this isn't r/xbiking. the MB-free and that Diamondback build are absolutely perfect though. Time to put a basket on my old GT so I can join the club!

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I'm hoping my beautiful Cheviot is not beautiful to would-be robbers.

Toshi

[Ryan]

Toshi...I devoutly hope so too, for your sake. But your lovely Cheviot is tempting eye-candy.

I'm going back to a downtown university tomorrow...I'm a retired student studying linguistics and I have one evening class on Mondays. My 2 non-rivs are a 70's PX-10 set up as a single speed which is mechanically perfect but deliberately grubby-looking and a 1993 X0-1. Much as I'd like the convenience of riding my bike to school, leaving it locked up for 3 hours stresses me out...so I'll walk to class and bus home. Bike theft is always a problem downtown and the pandemic has kind of exacerbated the situation.

[lucky...@gmail.com]

I always enjoy this thread. The one thing I’ve noticed is that is really hard for bike nerds, especially those who appreciate the Riv aesthetic, to avoid turning even the beaterist of beaters into some version of eye candy.

Even my son rides a clean 90’s Rockhopper to school, I tried putting him on a super ugly lower end bike and he couldn’t get into it. “Rides terribly,” he said, and he’s not into bikes. He’s just had the luxury of experiencing nicer bikes. 

So I invested in Pitlocks all around, and a good U-Lock, and hope that’s deterrent enough to move on, in the High School bike rack at least.

*not that I want any kids’ bikes stolen, Pitlocks or no*

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Toshi...I devoutly hope so too, for your sake. But your lovely Cheviot is tempting eye-candy.

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[Bones]

This is one of my Wabi's, and my go-to commuter. I ride to work on it every day and use it for beer runs, mailing stuff, etc. I've tried to build a "beater" bike many times over the years but I never end up reaching for them when I have other bikes that are more fun to ride. I am fortunate (or maybe sneaky?) enough to be able to store it inside when I get to work so theft is not really an issue. My community (unlike where I work) is pretty quaint and safe. I never leave it locked up for long, and rarely out of my sight.

Bones