Stem for Billie Bars...

[D H]

Hi.  I'm currently building up a Sam H and have just received some Billie bars.  Really cool, but it seems like a lot of leverage.  I am about to order a stem but have a hard time imagining Billies staying put with just a single-bolt Technomic or Tallux.

So if I torque the stem down properly, I can count on the Billies not moving if I jump off a curb or something?  I'm pretty average size.  175 lbs.  Any Billie owners want to chime in with their experience?  Maybe I should just pay more and get the 4-bolt, face plated stem....

Thanks!

[Joe Bernard]

If you're contemplating jumping off curbs you're the type of rider who probably should spring for the Face Plater. 

[Keith P.]

This is a good question, and one I wish I had known to ask.

I have Billie bars on my Sam, through a single bolt Nitto Tallux stem. 

They have only moved once, when I dropped into a stream crossing that was much steeper than I expected.

(This sounds like it looked cooler than it did. It was no Man From Snowy River.)

That being said, the leverage of such long bars is undeniable, and I never feel I can torque on them as much as I other wise would like to.

I bunny-hop a little gingerly... Pull-up over curbs mindfully.

If I were to ever make a bar change of any kind, I would switch my stem to a face plater.

k.

On Wednesday, September 25, 2024 at 7:30:31 PM UTC-7 dinoh...@gmail.com wrote:

[Steve Theberge]

Hi folks! 

I have Billie bars on my newly built sam. In talking  it over with Will at Riv he strongly suggested the 4 bolt faceplate stem for exactly the reasons you mentioned.  110mm on my size 54. 

https://www.rivbike.com/products/stem-nitto-90-190?srsltid=AfmBOoqnIYxgujEKpDnEy5yD8YGOE3tHPf6Rfdv90PzE3_ICnFWx-Qtw

Added bonus is that it’s easier to swap out bars if you change your mind. 

So far it’s been great, feels rock solid with zero slippage. Have fun! 

[Ryan Ogilvie]

Billie owner here re-upping what everyone else has said (had Orthos on Nitto Tallux that would slip when doing silly stuff) and saying that my Billies on a faceplatter have been rock solid when presented with a bit of tomfoolery. 

Sent from my mobile device. 

On Sep 26, 2024, at 8:10 AM, Steve Theberge <steve.t...@gmail.com> wrote:



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[Michael Morrissey]

Just get the faceplater in 31.8. You can get a shim and run smaller diameter bars if you want. Crust also has some Nitto faceplaters in different sizes too. I have one on my Appaloosa and it is very solid.

m

On Wednesday, September 25, 2024 at 10:30:31 PM UTC-4 dinoh...@gmail.com wrote:

[Chris Halasz]

I haven't used Billie Bars, but my Toscos work just fine with any non-shimmed stems, whether Technomic or Dirt Drop. 

The only bars I've ever had slip was an Albatross with an under-torqued 26.0mm stem shimmed to accommodate 25.4mm bars. 

I notice the dirt drop stem type, whether Kalloy or Nitto, have both a wider and what appears a thicker amount of aluminum around the bar clamp portion of the stem. 

Anyway, my twenty dollar purchased new 80mm Kalloy silver polished dirt drop stem holds the Toscos just fine. 

The Faceplaters are beautifully crafted, and not a bad idea if you're bombing along with swept back bars. Not convinced they're necessary. 

- Chris 

[Joe Bernard]

As a counterpoint to my own suggestion, I have Boscos on my Clem in a single-bolt Technomic. They don't budge but I'm not dropping off curbs. 

[D H]

Thanks guys.  I went ahead and ordered the 90 190 stem.  Looks really good, and I think I got the last one in 25.4.