FS: Clem Smith Jr Disc 59

[jstewse]

Time to pass this Clem along

59cm Clem Smith Jr H

Disc tabs added by Walt at Waltworks.  Makes a great bike even better.

Link to photos

Check out the photos and contact me with any questions.

$875 shipped to you

[Karl]

Wish I could unsee this!!

[Christopher Cote]

I wish it was the next size smaller. Maybe I'm glad it's not.

Chris

[Mike Williams]

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[Michael Morrissey]

I would be buying this if it were a size 52. Out of curiosity, do you have any pics of it built up, and how much did it cost to get the disc tabs welded on?

[jstewse]

Some inquirers but no takers, hows about $825 shipped 

[Matthew P]

I would also like to know how much it cost to get the disc tabs put on, and any feedback on that.

Did it include paint?  Was that vertical piece under the rear tab added?

Is Waltworks the best option for this?  Perhaps I'll start a new thread.

I'm interested in getting disc tabs on an Atlantis, for the braking, but perhaps more so that I can fit & swap wider tires at 650b and not as wide at 700c.

Thank you.

-Matthew

San Diego

[Patrick Moore]

Someone else onlist had his Atlantis disc-ified; perhaps he will speak up?

He showed me a photo of the final result; very nice looking bike with the alteration and repaint. 

Perhaps all of this will push Grant into making a disc off road model; then we'll push him into hub gears.

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Patrick Moore

Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum

[Drw]

Fitz made me a disc fork for my Atlantis, still working on getting all the parts for the transition. I'm not the one with the full disc Atlantis, i think that is William. His bike gave me the idea, but i believe his is also a new fork and mod on the back.  i reached out to a number of builders who wouldn't put disc tabs on the stock Atlantis fork

[Corwin]

As I recall, the Atlantis with a fork modified for disc brakes involved a crash and an extensive rebuild.

Forks need to be much stiffer to handle disc brakes.

I doubt you will get Grant to offer a bike based solely on disc brakes.

...Unless you agree with him that rim brakes are the ultimate disc brakes.

Namaste,

Corwin

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 4:56:45 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

Someone else onlist had his Atlantis disc-ified; perhaps he will speak up?

He showed me a photo of the final result; very nice looking bike with the alteration and repaint. 

Perhaps all of this will push Grant into making a disc off road model; then we'll push him into hub gears.

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 1:46 PM Matthew P <matthewpe...@gmail.com> wrote:

I would also like to know how much it cost to get the disc tabs put on, and any feedback on that.

Did it include paint?  Was that vertical piece under the rear tab added?

Is Waltworks the best option for this?  Perhaps I'll start a new thread.

I'm interested in getting disc tabs on an Atlantis, for the braking, but perhaps more so that I can fit & swap wider tires at 650b and not as wide at 700c.

Thank you.

-Matthew

San Diego

On Friday, March 13, 2020 at 7:26:18 AM UTC-7, Michael Morrissey wrote:

I would be buying this if it were a size 52. Out of curiosity, do you have any pics of it built up, and how much did it cost to get the disc tabs welded on?

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[jstewse]

Hello all, thanks for the interest.  I actually bought this second hand from another list member who hired Walt to do the conversion.  I can't speak to the exact amount, but I believe it was in the neighborhood of a couple hundred bucks.  No paint, this frame is just rattle-canned on the disc mounts.  

William P, the vertical piece added between the chainstays is a brace, stiffens up that area where the brake is.  Very common on disc brake bikes.

Atlantis fork is probably a no-go, I imagine you'd have a hard time finding a builder willing to do that for you, but Walt checked the tubing spec on the fork of Ol' Clem Smith here, and determined it to be of sufficient wall thickness to support a disc-mount.  

[Jonathan D.]

I reached out to Walt since there seems to be a lot of interest. Here are the details for anyone interested. I would be really curious to hear folks experience.

I typically charge $100 for the frame (including the crossbrace between seatstay/chainstay). Forks (if I think it's appropriate) are $75.

That doesn't include any repainting or shipping cost. I can powdercoat a frameset for $250 in any color in the Prismatic catalog, though.

[chris feczko]

This is my disc modded Atlantis. Purchased form a list member a while ago and I finally had it almost built up. Fork is custom from Clockwork. 

[Matthew P]

Beautiful Chris.  

I like the bars (Hunter-Nitto Smooth Moves?) and tires too. 

Is that a 58 cm - 700c ?  Or a 56 cm - 650b?  And are the Thunderburts 2.1" or 2.25" wide, or other?  

Do you have more info on it posted anywhere else?  Or please share here all you'd like.

I'll have to check out Clockwork.

I have a 56 cm - 650b MUSA Atlantis with 2.35" Nobby Nic's and Magic Mary's (front and back or the other way around).

And I have a 58 cm - 700c Toyo Atlantis arriving next week.  

The 56 cm Atlantis is rideable but smaller than ideal, I think.  Hence the 58 cm.  One will be for (re-)sale soon.

I'm curious how wide a tire I can fit on the 58 cm - 700c Toyo.  I'd like to maybe get above 2.2" wide, but above that, I think I'd want the wheel to be 650b.

That is the main driver for my interest in going to disc brakes - to change wheel sizes, and less so to maybe not fatigue my hands braking all day wet, loaded, offroad etc.

Something like 700c x 40-50mm smoothish tires for the road and 650b x 2.2-2.4" for trails would be nice.

Thanks all for the great info.

-Matthew

San Diego 

[William!]

Here’s the backstory (and photos) on my Atlantis, which I converted to discs + 650b
https://bikepacking.com/news/readers-rig-williams-rivendell-atlantis/

[chris feczko]

Hey Matthew,

Bars are Simworks getaround which I had laying around. This is a 61cm Toyo. Not sure of the year. The tires are 2.1 TB's. The blunt 35's are great though. Amazingly light and wide! First time I've been able to get a tire to measure to their stated width. I have a little room in the rear and I might be able to go 2.25 but not worth it to me. Fork can fit a 2.4 I believe. Check out WIlliam's build above. Much more elegant!

Thanks 

Chris

[jstewse]

I still have this frame, if anyone needs a project.  $800 shipped.

Maybe worth mentioning that it does still have canti studs as well as disc tabs, like those early Surly Karate Monkeys, so you've got options depending on your parts bin resources are.

[Brett Callahan]

@William, Did you replace the jockey wheels on the Altus rear derailleur?

[William!]

Sharp eye Brett 😉

[jstewse]

Bumping this thread in case anyone has the urge for a big Clem Smith.

I think I have to stick to $800 shipped, this is a big bike and likely won't be cheap to put in the mail.

Please let me know if you're interested, thanks!