Manivelle basket rack on Sam Hillborne

[Tim Tom]

I am a first time basket rack user.  I discovered Manivelle thanks to Wats' comment here.  I mounted mine this week and went for my first ride yesterday.  Installation took about an hour, including uploading the French instructions to Google Translate.  Having the learned the process, a second install could be done in 20 minutes.  The rack is very solid and silent - no rattles.  Overall, I am very happy with the Manivelle's sturdiness, good-enough aesthetics, and $94 (with shipping) price.

I have mixed feelings if I will keep the Manivelle on this Sam.  The Manivelle is perfect for my simple 2 mile trips to the gym with 13lb bag.  However, I see the merits of being able to temporarily secure a basket with volie straps so that you don't have the weight all the time.  So I may still end up buying a Marks rack or VO Porteur for this Sam with drop bar, and move the Manivelle to my Appaloosa with Albatros bar. Having so many choices is difficult!  This was a fun $94 experiment.

[Teague Scott]

This rasket has had me intrigued for a while now! Cool to see one in use here.

What do you think of the Manivelle? How does it hold up to a decent load? Does it get a little noodly? I'd plan on using it on my basketpacker. I currently use a big ol' Surly rack with a 139 strapped to it. Works well and feels solid, but it's a hefty setup that I'd like to pare down a little.

Thanks,

Teague in Boise

[Timothy Tolls]

Hi Teague - take my comments with many grains of salt because I am still gaining experience with it….that said I find it very solid and I have no doubt it will remain solid under its max 10kg (??) capacity.  The mounting kit is high quality and sturdy- much more so than I expected for the price.  My only concern with max loads is not the rasket, but the hit to stability and performance which varies from bike to bike. I even noticed this with my 13lb gym bag.  Its not awful, but noticeable at lowest speeds IMHO. Really the only thing giving me pause from buying a second Maniville for my Appa is that it might be nice to have an easily removable basket on this Sam - and since so many others do the Marks / Wald combo there is a reasonable chance I will learn they are right!  Until that time…I am having fun with this $94 solution!

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[Teague Scott]

Thanks for your 2c.

I like that the Manivelle's size is between that of the 137 and 139. I've found a 137 juuuust a little tight for shoulder season (need for warm gear) overnighters here in SW Idaho. The 137 is a little too big for my needs and begs for extra, unnecessary s%*! ... Either way, I try to minimize weight in a basket and use it for soft stuff only – sleeping bag & clothes. Heavier stuff (food, beer, stove, tool kit, steripen, extra tube, "shelter") rides in a saddlebag. A Z-rest pad migrates between front and rear depending on how frequently I find myself digging for stuff in the saddlebag. A Jandd partial framebag and stem bag help alleviate most digging.

I've tried both the 137 and 139 on a Mark's rack. Both work, but IMO the 139 is too much basket for the Mark's platform.

My most recent front rasket setup, the 139 & surly front rack, weights 4.75 lbs 😱

The Manivelle looks to weigh ~2.8 lbs

This ongoing experimentation has been taking place on a big Black Mountain Cycles MXC.

[Pat Smith]

I've been using a wald 137 with a tote bag from Sim Works for commuting for a few years. It's just a hair too small, mostly due to the fact my 13" laptop doesn't quite lay flat. The Manivelle seems like the perfect size but then I'd have to get a custom made bag to fit. Really adds some cost. I'd just be getting the basket and not the attachment hardware, but I have seen many positive reviews about the "total package".

Smitty in DC 

[Brenton Eastman]

Your Sam looks so so so so similar to mine when I got it. I would say 95% comparable.

[st nick]

Your Sam looks great with or without the basket.

Can you tell me the year model?

Your frame looks very similar to mine in size (59cm) and the shade of orange.

However mine is set up with an upright bar cockpit.

I've yet to add a basket but am considering it.

I'm guessing mine is about 4 to 5 years old.

I've owned it about 2 years.

Thanks

Paul in Dallas

Anyone know if Riv has a serial number decode guide to determine the year made?

I attached a pic of mine.

It's a joy to ride.

[Brenton Eastman]

Mine is the same color orange and has caliper brakes. 2017 give or take a year. 

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Your Sam looks great with or without the basket.

Can you tell me the year model?

Your frame looks very similar to mine in size (59cm) and the shade of orange.

However mine is set up with an upright bar cockpit.

I've yet to add a basket but am considering it.

I'm guessing mine is about 4 to 5 years old.

I've owned it about 2 years.

Thanks

Paul in Dallas

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Anyone know if Riv has a serial number decode guide to determine the year made?

I attached a pic of mine.

It's a joy to ride.

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[Timothy Tolls]

Hi St Nick - I purchased my Sam last spring from a gentleman on Craigslist here in the Portland area.  I sent Vince at Riv a picture of the serial number to determine age, etc - he replied back with:

 "You have what looks like a 2015 model, made in Taiwan. I can't verify whether or not that is the serial number. It seems like a valid serial number.

 

The build has Nitto Noodle bars, a Nitto Tallux stem, Sugino crankset, Silver1 shifters, Shimano Deore rear derailleur, SKS P45 fenders and Tektro R559 sidepull brakes.

 

Best,

Vince"

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[st nick]

Thank you Brenton and Timothy for the replies.

I appreciate it.

It's a gorgeous day in the Dallas Texas area today so I hope to get in a nice ride on this terrific bike.

Paul in Dallas