Jim,
Before Riv started offering frames with 6 degree top tube upslope, the top tube upslope was roughly 2 degrees. This was the Riv norm from 1994 until whenever the Bombadil came along (’07, ’08?, I don’t remember the exact year.) Atlantis had 2.5 degrees, AHH had 1.5 degrees, many other models had 2 degrees.
With those 2 degree frames, my ideal size is 64 and 65 cm, and that’s what I rode before Bombadil and Hillborne came along with the 6 degree upslope.
Then in 2010, I got a 60 cm Hillborne, I found that I could make that size work well for me. When they started offering the frames with more upslope to the top tubes, they called it “Expanded Geometry.” It’s ended up being a really good thing, because I’m pretty sure it improves the dirt capability.
Enjoy your Hillborne! Amazing frames