FS Clem and Clementine

[El Sapo]

Clem is a medium in blue, and Clementine is a small in black. Both are from the first shipment of full build Clem Smith Jr bikes. They are both in "Like New" condition. The Clem has a brooks saddle and light weight Rene Herse tires. The Clementine is stock.  

Giving the RBW Owners Bunch first shot.

$2K each.    

[El Sapo]

[El Sapo]

[Alex K]

Where are you located?  Beautiful bikes!

[Doug H.]

Those look new! 

Doug

[El Sapo]

Bump, 52 Clem and a small Clementine in the California Bay Area 

[Pancake]

Am I right to think the "small" Clementine is the same as a 45cm Clem L?

Abe

[Joe Bernard]

It is, and I'd be curious to know the effective toptube - tape measure in a straight line from middle of seatpost to middle of headtube - of that gorgeous Clementine. They got longer in later editions. 

Joe Bernard

[Garth]

The 2019+ Clem-L's are notably longer front and rear than the previous generation of Clem's which the Clementine belonged to. They are 2 completely different frames that happen to share the same model name. There was no advance that this was going to happen, so for example when Leah got her new one it took her awhile to figure out a new, much shorter stem to use. 

Here's the visual .....   https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5e234be7c6f2c50017f1e4ca,5ad94f910b7e170014f9dc22,

[Doug Hansford]

The fact that the new generation Clem L is longer makes me wonder why the switch to the Tosco from the Bosco handlebar.  

Doug

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[Joe Bernard]

"The fact that the new generation Clem L is longer makes me wonder why the switch to the Tosco from the Bosco handlebar."

My guess is supply. Riv still has Boscos in stock but I imagine getting more Nitto bits for completes is a tall order these days. They've just introduced a new Taiwan rack in anticipation of Nitto supply issues, too. 

Joe Bernard

[Joe Bernard]

The first gen would be even shorter then the 2017 listed in that link, there's at least three versions of this model. I bought a 45 Clem L frame from Riv a few years ago and was told the ETT was longer than original Clementine.