ACP Randonneur 10,000, and Super 600k--the rules are changing

[Kitty Goursolle]

If you were thinking of earning the ACP R-10,000 medal, here's a heads up.  

What are the requirements for the ACP Randonneurs 10,000 award?

Complete at least 10,000 km of ACP brevets (NOT RUSA permanents)  including a Paris-Brest-Paris, another 1200k, two full ACP series of 200, 300, 400, 600, and 1000 km brevets, a Flèche team event, and an ACP 600k brevet with at least 8000m of climbing (or a Super Randonnée 600 before 10/31/2022) within a six-year period [details] [awardees]. 

Basically, you have a choice. By October 31, 2022, finish a Super 600k, with its 10,000 meters of climbing and 60 hours allowed for completion, or after that date, your only option is to find and complete an ACP 600k brevet with 8000 meters of climbing and  within 40 hours.

IMHO, It's much easier to finish a Super 600k with 10,000 meters in 60 hours, than finishing an ACP brevet with 8000 meters in 40 hours. 

The clock is ticking if you wanted to use a Super 600k for your R-10,000. 

[Linh Nguyen]

Is that how you get a cup? Or another kind of bling.  I am riding for bling. 

Regards,

Linh

On Sep 15, 2022, at 11:08 AM, Kitty Goursolle <kgour...@cv.k12.ca.us> wrote:

If you were thinking of earning the ACP R-10,000 medal, here's a heads up.  

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[Dan Driscoll]

Nice Post, Kitty….. and I agree 100%

If you are planing to do PBP in 2023 and you’d like a Randonneur 10,000 Award from the ACP, get your SR 600 done before the clock runs out on 10/31/22. -OR- you did PBP 2019 and have not earned your Randonneur 10,000 Award, yet.

It’s not been confirmed, but with a six year window, maybe ride a couple SR 600kms, before the deadline and use the other one for your PBP 2037 ;=)

I’ve ridden 6 different SR 600’s so far this year, I’ve fallen in love with them, and plan to do one more before the deadline, if you’d like some help picking one, let me know. 

I really enjoyed Kitty’s East Bay SR 600 earlier this year. 

DanD 

[Dave Thompson]

There's a nice bit of bling that comes from ACP - a medal - for the R10000.

Dave.

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[Jas Dembinski]

FYI, I rode with one other randonneur on the Lynn K SR 600k, Brad T., and without his support and camaraderie, I don't see how I could have done it.  Very best!

[Dan Driscoll]

The current Bling is the ACP Randonneur 10,000 Award. 

At some point RUSA may offer additional Bling for SR 600kms, I hope ;=) 

I totally Agree with Jan. I’ve not done a single SR 600km alone. We did one as a group of two riders, but all of the other 10 with groups of 3 or more riders, which makes the experience so much more, in so many ways. 

DanD 

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[Jake Kassen]

> The current Bling is the ACP Randonneur 10,000 Award.
>
> At some point RUSA may offer additional Bling for SR 600kms, I hope
> ;=)

I don't think anything is approved yet in this regard but the RUSA Dirt (Gravel) committee was discussing the possibility of some pretty sweet bling for riders who rack up the unpaved kilometers. :)

Jake

[Jim Koegel]

To date 2/26/23, is the SR600 program defunct?

[Dave Thompson]

The program isn’t defunct. There are some very nice routes and awards, but a Super 600 is not part of the R10000 going forward. 

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From my iwdt

[Mark Thomas]

SR600s are no longer recognized by the ACP and are no longer part of the ACP’s R10000 award. 

But SR600s are alive and well around the world, including a very nice collection of RUSA-recognized routes in US. 

Mark

On Feb 26, 2023, at 7:14 AM, Jim Koegel <koeg...@gmail.com> wrote:

To date 2/26/23, is the SR600 program defunct?

[John Lee Ellis]

Hi Jim,

The SR600 program is no longer associated with the ACP, and those rides can no longer be used towards the ACP Randonneur 10000 award, as Kitty points out.

But you can still ride SR600 perm routes around the world for credit by Provence Randonneurs, who now run the global program. And you can still get the same RUSA credit as always, toward distance and other awards, by riding a RUSA Permanent that is associated with a Provence Randonneurs SR600 route. See our Super Randonnée (SR600) Permanents page for details.

To find US ACP-sanctioned 600k brevets with 8000m+ of climbing, which Kitty describes towards R-10000 credit, some are listed on the RUSA Home Page.

-john

[Dan Driscoll]

Jim….. as Kitty, Dave, Mark and JLE have already mentioned, the ACP has created their own hilly 600km requirement, and going forward, will no longer accept the original SR 600km, ridden after October, 2022, for their Randonneur 10,000 Award, but that should not detour anyone, as the original SR 600’s are some of my favorite rides…. Ever !!!!!!!  

So, if you’ve not already done a SR 600, and you are going to PBP and chasing the Randonneur 10,000 award, you’ll need to do one of the ACPs new 600kms with 8,000 meters of climbing in 40 hours, to check that one box. 

But, if you are not going to PBP, and not chasing the Randonneur 10,000 Award, or even if you are, nothing’s else has changed for the original Super Sixes, and I’d highly recommend that you give one of these “Alive and Well” SR 600kms AKA Super Sixes a go. 

Gather a few friends, pick one of these amazing routes, make a plan, and go ride one or more, I think you’ll be very glad you did.  

I’ve ridden 11 different SR 600kms in the USA, and couldn’t have better memories. There is a huge sense of Adventure associated with these rides. Riding them with others builds memories that will last a life time. Seeing these remote parts of our country is eye opening. Who knew Utah, Arizona, Georgia, and so many other parts of the USA were so beautiful. These Super Sixes are a great excuse to ride the Catskills, The Blue Ridge Parkway, ride in different states…...JLE’s Colorado SR 600km was spectacular, without being so remote that we had to purify our own water from a creek ;=) For me, these experiences are in line with 1,200kms, but with some extra special twists, that make them, more unique. 

They are permanents, you can calendar them when they work best for you. 

Many Thanks to Mr. Bill Beck, who’s done so much work to promote these spectacular rides. Thanks also to Dave for his help getting the below Award approved and in the RUSA Store. Thanks to Charlie for his web work. Thanks to Pam Wright who customizes the below Awards, available to RUSA members, who’ve completed a Super Six…. Don’t you want one  ;=)

DanD 

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[Raphael]

Hi all,

 

Do not know if it’s the right email to propose this idea. But what about a Climbing Serie where the average slope is superior or equal at 2% ?

• 200k – 4000m
• 300k – 6000m
• 400k – 8000m
• 600k – 12000m
• 1000k – 20000m

 

I personally will be very interested by this type of rides J

 

Cheers, Raphaël

 

From: 'Dan Driscoll' via Randonneurs USA <randonn...@googlegroups.com>
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Subject: Re: [RUSA] ACP Randonneur 10,000, and Super 600k--the rules are changing

 

Jim….. as Kitty, Dave, Mark and JLE have already mentioned, the ACP has created their own hilly 600km requirement, and going forward, will no longer accept the original SR 600km, ridden after October, 2022, for their Randonneur 10,000 Award, but that should not detour anyone, as the original SR 600’s are some of my favorite rides…. Ever !!!!!!!  

 

So, if you’ve not already done a SR 600, and you are going to PBP and chasing the Randonneur 10,000 award, you’ll need to do one of the ACPs new 600kms with 8,000 meters of climbing in 40 hours, to check that one box. 

 

But, if you are not going to PBP, and not chasing the Randonneur 10,000 Award, or even if you are, nothing’s else has changed for the original Super Sixes, and I’d highly recommend that you give one of these “Alive and Well” SR 600kms AKA Super Sixes a go. 

 

Gather a few friends, pick one of these amazing routes, make a plan, and go ride one or more, I think you’ll be very glad you did.  

 

I’ve ridden 11 different SR 600kms in the USA, and couldn’t have better memories. There is a huge sense of Adventure associated with these rides. Riding them with others builds memories that will last a life time. Seeing these remote parts of our country is eye opening. Who knew Utah, Arizona, Georgia, and so many other parts of the USA were so beautiful. These Super Sixes are a great excuse to ride the Catskills, The Blue Ridge Parkway, ride in different states…...JLE’s Colorado SR 600km was spectacular, without being so remote that we had to purify our own water from a creek ;=) For me, these experiences are in line with 1,200kms, but with some extra special twists, that make them, more unique. 

 

They are permanents, you can calendar them when they work best for you. 

 

Many Thanks to Mr. Bill Beck, who’s done so much work to promote these spectacular rides. Thanks also to Dave for his help getting the below Award approved and in the RUSA Store. Thanks to Charlie for his web work. Thanks to Pam Wright who customizes the below Awards, available to RUSA members, who’ve completed a Super Six…. Don’t you want one  ;=)

 

DanD 

 

 

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[Dan Driscoll]

Raphael, did you mean 20%?

After the results of last years RUSA members Awards Survey were tabulated, it was clear that a Climbing Award was at the top of the list of desired riding Awards for RUSA members. 

Different Climbing Awards were discussed by the RUSA Board, in the end, the what made most sense was to track climbing in feet per rider. This was given to the RUSA Web team to sort out, and I believe it’s work in progress. 

DanD 

On Feb 26, 2023, at 2:06 PM, Raphael <raphael...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

 

Do not know if it’s the right email to propose this idea. But what about a Climbing Serie where the average slope is superior or equal at 2% ?

• 200k – 4000m
• 300k – 6000m
• 400k – 8000m
• 600k – 12000m
• 1000k – 20000m

 

I personally will be very interested by this type of rides J

 

Cheers, Raphaël 

 

From: 'Dan Driscoll' via Randonneurs USA <randonn...@googlegroups.com> 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2023 10:13 AM
To: John Lee Ellis <jell...@gmail.com>
Cc: Jim Koegel <koeg...@gmail.com>; B -RUSA Google Group <randonn...@googlegroups.com>; Bill Beck <william...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RUSA] ACP Randonneur 10,000, and Super 600k--the rules are changing

 

Jim….. as Kitty, Dave, Mark and JLE have already mentioned, the ACP has created their own hilly 600km requirement, and going forward, will no longer accept the original SR 600km, ridden after October, 2022, for their Randonneur 10,000 Award, but that should not detour anyone, as the original SR 600’s are some of my favorite rides…. Ever !!!!!!!  

 

So, if you’ve not already done a SR 600, and you are going to PBP and chasing the Randonneur 10,000 award, you’ll need to do one of the ACPs new 600kms with 8,000 meters of climbing in 40 hours, to check that one box. 

 

But, if you are not going to PBP, and not chasing the Randonneur 10,000 Award, or even if you are, nothing’s else has changed for the original Super Sixes, and I’d highly recommend that you give one of these “Alive and Well” SR 600kms AKA Super Sixes a go. 

 

Gather a few friends, pick one of these amazing routes, make a plan, and go ride one or more, I think you’ll be very glad you did.  

 

I’ve ridden 11 different SR 600kms in the USA, and couldn’t have better memories. There is a huge sense of Adventure associated with these rides. Riding them with others builds memories that will last a life time. Seeing these remote parts of our country is eye opening. Who knew Utah, Arizona, Georgia, and so many other parts of the USA were so beautiful. These Super Sixes are a great excuse to ride the Catskills, The Blue Ridge Parkway, ride in different states…...JLE’s Colorado SR 600km was spectacular, without being so remote that we had to purify our own water from a creek ;=) For me, these experiences are in line with 1,200kms, but with some extra special twists, that make them, more unique. 

 

They are permanents, you can calendar them when they work best for you. 

 

Many Thanks to Mr. Bill Beck, who’s done so much work to promote these spectacular rides. Thanks also to Dave for his help getting the below Award approved and in the RUSA Store. Thanks to Charlie for his web work. Thanks to Pam Wright who customizes the below Awards, available to RUSA members, who’ve completed a Super Six…. Don’t you want one  ;=)

 

DanD 

 

 

[Greg Merritt]

No, the notion is an expression of elevation gain per distance traveled, e.g., 200km = 200,000m; 2% of 200,000m distance works out to 4,000m of elevation gain.

Very roughly this is around 12,000feet elevation per 125miles, or roughly 1,000feet of elevation gain for every ten miles traveled; a “climby” ride.

-Greg

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