[RUSA] R-5000 Award Question

[Cheng-Hong Li]

Hello, 

One of the the R-5000 award requirements is to complete a full series of ACP brevets (200, 300, 400, 600, and 1000km). Do we need to complete the series in the same year, or can it be done over the 4-year period? (Say, each year has one of the 4 distances.)

Thanks!

Best regards,

Cheng-Hong

[Dave Thompson]

Four year period. 

Dave. 

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[Iwan Barankay]

You have four years

https://rusa.org/pages/award_r5000

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[Fred Chagnon]

My understanding is that the full series has to be done in the same year, but that all r5000 requirements need to be done within a four year period.

 - full series

 - Flèche

 - PBP

 - etc. 

I don't think you can distribute the brevet requirements across the four years. 

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[Iwan Barankay]

False 

It's a buffet from across four years. The requirements is NOT to be an SR plus other events but to have ridden the brevets of all the lengths and the other requirements

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[Rob Hawks]

Since one of the requirements is PBP you will have done a full SR series in one year (plus PBP). The 1000k is not part of the SR series. For example, to earn the R5000 award, you could do the SR series and PBP in one year (2700km), and then do the fleche the next year (3060km running total), and the 1000k the year after that (4060km), and in the fourth year do as many ACP brevets as you need to reach 5000 kms (roughly 1000 more km). On the other end of the spectrum of course, you could do all that in one year.

Rob Hawks 

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[Fred Chagnon]

Thanks for the clarification. I'm pursuing the R10000 and was attacking it with the SR+1000 tactic in mind. 

[Iwan Barankay]

Fred,

Good luck with that project. It's a noble goal and gets you to really appreciate what all the different styles if events are about. For me the biggest challenge was the SR600 (now replaced by the 8k600) which took me multiple attempts. (I wrote an article about it in our Magazine last fall).

Ping me if I can help in any way.

Iwan

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[Cheng-Hong Li]

Thank you, Rob! This answers my question. 

I gave a bad example in my initial email. Since R-5000 requires PBP, which in turn requires an SR series. So the remaining question is whether the 1000K brevet needs to be done in the same year as the SR. Now I know the 1000K can be done separately in a different year.

[Mark Thomas]

One small clarification - it is possible to qualify for PBP with substitutions - you can, for example, ride a 200, two 400s, and a 600. The 400 substitutes for the 300k qualifier. The 400 will not, however, work in place of the 300k required to get the R5000 award.

Mark

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[Rob Hawks]

Thanks Mark.

In my example, I was aiming for the least effort possible, so substituting longer events for shorter ones to qualify would be more effort.

rob

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[Dave Thompson]

To clarify - pbp does not require an sr series since longer can be substituted for shorter, however the R5000 requires one of each distance over the four years. 

Dave. 

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[Dan Driscoll]

To Be Clear….. YES, the ACP has replaced the SR 600, with the 8k600, for the ACP Randonneur 10,000 award, but you can still use a SR 600 that was done earlier for this PBP’s Randonneur 10,000km Award. 

Although the ACP no longer recognizes the SR 600 for their Awards, the SR 600 is very much alive, and there are still non ACP Awards associated with them.

I’ve not done a 8k600 yet, but can’t imagine that they will strike my fancy. When traveling to do I ride, in a different State, I  like to see as much as possible, the 8k600 allows only 40 hours, which will require much more night riding and less sleep. We did a 60 hour SR600 with out riding in the dark, which was nice, as the scenery on some of these rides is spectacular. 

It’s my hope that the SR600km’s grow and prosper, RUSA has a lot of work invested in them, and currently they are by far my favorites type of Rando ride. 

DanD 

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[Hamid Akbarian]

If you need an ACP 1000km for your R5k or R10k or get closer to your K-Hound award then Northern Virginia offers a 1000km on Oct 6.

http://www.cyclingforever.com/nvr

Keep Riding & Keep Smiling,

Hamid Akbarian