tip for promoting racket on yc hacker news
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Neil Van Dyke
May 20, 2019, 4:57:28 PM5/20/19
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If you're posting Racket-related stuff in recent months to YC's
startup-oriented Hacker News (HN) site:
1. Thank you!
2. It seems important to time the posts so that they hit "new" or the
front page during US morning/afternoon work hours. I've seen some posts
that gain a lot of traction with comments (most recently, one on a
section of Matthew Butterick's book), but other deserving posts that
appear&disappear while the bulk of HN users aren't reading.
(Apologies for the US-centrism, but YC is a US-based organization, and
HN users seems to be weighted that way.)
Also, for everyone else, if you're interested in US startups/dotcoms,
getting some feel for HN seems important, and you can also help out in
the comments on Racket posts. (I've been doing a bit of this. There
seems to be a lot of scattered enthusiasm for Racket, a lot of
curiosity, and some misconceptions.) https://news.ycombinator.com/
(As always, racket-users is the canonical forum for Racket, and things
like HN are outreach outposts.)
startup-oriented Hacker News (HN) site:
1. Thank you!
2. It seems important to time the posts so that they hit "new" or the
front page during US morning/afternoon work hours. I've seen some posts
that gain a lot of traction with comments (most recently, one on a
section of Matthew Butterick's book), but other deserving posts that
appear&disappear while the bulk of HN users aren't reading.
(Apologies for the US-centrism, but YC is a US-based organization, and
HN users seems to be weighted that way.)
Also, for everyone else, if you're interested in US startups/dotcoms,
getting some feel for HN seems important, and you can also help out in
the comments on Racket posts. (I've been doing a bit of this. There
seems to be a lot of scattered enthusiasm for Racket, a lot of
curiosity, and some misconceptions.) https://news.ycombinator.com/
(As always, racket-users is the canonical forum for Racket, and things
like HN are outreach outposts.)
Greg Hendershott
May 20, 2019, 11:49:19 PM5/20/19
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I agree it's good to promote Racket everywhere.
At the same time, I recommend folks not take HN too seriously. :)
Scanning the links? Often worthwhile.
The comments? Sometimes good. Often epic Dunning-Kruger.
If you're busy you can instead just read this weekly summary:
http://n-gate.com/
You're welcome. :)
At the same time, I recommend folks not take HN too seriously. :)
Scanning the links? Often worthwhile.
The comments? Sometimes good. Often epic Dunning-Kruger.
If you're busy you can instead just read this weekly summary:
http://n-gate.com/
You're welcome. :)
Neil Van Dyke
May 21, 2019, 12:19:54 AM5/21/19
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I love n-gate, and part of the amusement is the mix of a bit of truth
and being over-the-top harsh.
HN has some merit, and I might also be seeing some positive shift in HN
zeitgeist within the last couple months (or maybe I'm just getting
desensitized to the worst, and perceptually biased to see the best :).
The main reason I first recommended some Racketeers try HN was to bridge
to people interested in doing startups, like Paul Graham started with YC
(back when he was encouraging people to interrupt college to do a
startup). I currently suspect that a successful startup using Racket
get to launch ("Rocket") is the most likely way that we'll now have
credible commercial adoption now (the kind in which job posts ask for
Racket experience). For whatever reason, we haven't seen startups out
of Racket-using universities write success stories about how Racket
helped them launch, so I looked to places like HN to reach the
startup-inclined directly.
(Racket History: When PG first started summer(?) funding startups, a few
of us PLTers/Racketeers applied as a team, and I figured we had a
chance, given how PG was also singing the praises of Lisp for startups,
and we were accomplished in Lisps. We didn't even get a response, I was
miffed for years, and it's only recently that time healed the wounds of
betrayal, and I was willing to try HN. :)
and being over-the-top harsh.
HN has some merit, and I might also be seeing some positive shift in HN
zeitgeist within the last couple months (or maybe I'm just getting
desensitized to the worst, and perceptually biased to see the best :).
The main reason I first recommended some Racketeers try HN was to bridge
to people interested in doing startups, like Paul Graham started with YC
(back when he was encouraging people to interrupt college to do a
startup). I currently suspect that a successful startup using Racket
get to launch ("Rocket") is the most likely way that we'll now have
credible commercial adoption now (the kind in which job posts ask for
Racket experience). For whatever reason, we haven't seen startups out
of Racket-using universities write success stories about how Racket
helped them launch, so I looked to places like HN to reach the
startup-inclined directly.
(Racket History: When PG first started summer(?) funding startups, a few
of us PLTers/Racketeers applied as a team, and I figured we had a
chance, given how PG was also singing the praises of Lisp for startups,
and we were accomplished in Lisps. We didn't even get a response, I was
miffed for years, and it's only recently that time healed the wounds of
betrayal, and I was willing to try HN. :)
Stephen De Gabrielle
May 21, 2019, 10:40:00 AM5/21/19
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I'm assuming the same applies to other outreach venues.
if you are posting your latest #lang you might consider whatever tag(s) are available on your chosen outposts to help discovery.
- https://www.reddit.com/r/racket (I'm not a fan of reddit but it is undeniably popular)
- https://www.reddit.com/r/lisp
- https://lobste.rs/ (HN competitor)
- Facebook Racket (sorry mobile link https://m.facebook.com/racketlang/)
- twitter and mastodon (tag as #racketlang?)
- Linkedin racket group (959 members!) https://www.linkedin.com/groups/119028/
- Maybe snapchat or instagram? Too weird.
I don't know if anyone youtubes Racket or streams to Twitch - I'm hoping to try with #lang video (I've been following the PRs and it looks like it is getting closer).
Both Youtube and Twitch have a tag functionality.
StackOverflow and github also have a racket tag/topic you can use on your question or repo
Kind regards,
Stephen
(Sent at 07:37 Pacific Daylight Time)
Neil Van Dyke
Aug 8, 2019, 8:06:43 AM8/8/19
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This is a good writeup on HN:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-silicon-valley/the-lonely-work-of-moderating-hacker-news
https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-silicon-valley/the-lonely-work-of-moderating-hacker-news
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