How 'Pythonic' Can Racket Be Made?

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Adam Golding

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Oct 9, 2023, 1:35:11 PM10/9/23
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I am going to write a language called 'micronatrix' that is pythonic in its use of whitespace and even with python 2 type print statements but very minimal and pared down -- has similar ground been trodden?
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ps I have registered micronatrix.com

D. Ben Knoble

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Oct 10, 2023, 12:09:09 PM10/10/23
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You'll probably get more replies on Discourse. A short answer is to mention Rhombus and to recommend looking at all the #langs on the package server and in the docs.

Adam Golding

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Oct 10, 2023, 12:11:34 PM10/10/23
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Yikes, how do we protest introducing a dependency on some corporation?

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Daniel Patterson

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Oct 10, 2023, 12:12:47 PM10/10/23
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Unlike, e.g., Google? 

Adam Golding

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Oct 10, 2023, 12:15:05 PM10/10/23
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ah well the practice of email lists does not depend on google... we should presumbly be using matrix chat instead

Adam Golding

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Oct 10, 2023, 12:16:13 PM10/10/23
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that being said, it's about minimizing the number of corporations one depends on, not reducing it to zero which is impossible

J. Ryan Stinnett

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Oct 10, 2023, 12:28:36 PM10/10/23
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In case there's confusion, we're talking about _Discourse_ here (the
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D. Ben Knoble

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Oct 10, 2023, 12:28:47 PM10/10/23
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Nor on Discourse: I use the mailing list mode.
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Adam Golding

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Oct 10, 2023, 12:30:28 PM10/10/23
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OH

Adam Golding

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Oct 10, 2023, 12:30:52 PM10/10/23
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Thank god I don't have to use discord ;-)

Jens Axel Søgaard

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Oct 12, 2023, 8:02:00 AM10/12/23
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Den man. 9. okt. 2023 kl. 19.35 skrev Adam Golding <adamg...@gmail.com>:
I am going to write a language called 'micronatrix' that is pythonic in its use of whitespace and even with python 2 type print statements but very minimal and pared down -- has similar ground been trodden?

Matthias Felleisen

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Oct 12, 2023, 8:09:45 AM10/12/23
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We tried embedding Python into Racket nee PLT Scheme some 20 years ago, twice:

Here is a paper on the second attempt:

From Python to PLT Scheme
https://www2.ccs.neu.edu/racket/pubs/#scheme2003-ms

Daniel Silva took the lead on this initiative. The surface language was (back then) covered.
It’s Python runtime system that made it essentially impossible to interop with the (even
then) many C libs.

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