Can someone please override the Reply-To so that normal replies go to the list?

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Sage Gerard

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Jan 1, 2021, 11:32:05 AM1/1/21
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The Reply-To experience for this list seems wrong.

Clicking normal "Reply" sets the reply to the person who last sent an email to the thread, but not the list address.

Clicking "Reply All" sends a copy of the email to an increasingly larger list of people, with the mail list CC'd. The extra copies can be annoying for some, but it's a pain to manually edit the email recipients every time such that only the user list is in the To: field.

Unless there's a reason to keep it this way, can the email list admin please see if this thread's solution still works for making Reply-To default to us...@racket-lang.org? https://support.google.com/a/thread/11037574?hl=en

~slg


Hendrik Boom

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Jan 1, 2021, 2:16:28 PM1/1/21
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On Fri, Jan 01, 2021 at 04:31:56PM +0000, Sage Gerard wrote:
> The Reply-To experience for this list seems wrong.
>
> Clicking normal "Reply" sets the reply to the person who last sent an email to the thread, but not the list address.
>
> Clicking "Reply All" sends a copy of the email to an increasingly larger list of people, with the mail list CC'd. The extra copies can be annoying for some, but it's a pain to manually edit the email recipients every time such that only the user list is in the To: field.

Proper mail systems use "reply to" indicate that the sender is sending
from a location that is not where he wants to receive email. This might
be because he is, for example, temprarily away from home.

"Reply all" is indeed to send to everybody nvilved in the message.

Proper mail systems also provide a command "reply to list". The proper
fix is to make sure your mail system supports reply to list.

>
> Unless there's a reason to keep it this way, can the email list admin please see if this thread's solution still works for making Reply-To default to us...@racket-lang.org? https://support.google.com/a/thread/11037574?hl=en

Now you know the reason. It makes it possible to reply to the original
author where he can receive email, and independently to reply to the
list.

-- hendrik

Dominik Pantůček

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Jan 1, 2021, 4:53:24 PM1/1/21
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>
> Proper mail systems also provide a command "reply to list". The proper
> fix is to make sure your mail system supports reply to list.
>

Which seems to work only if the list is in the "To:" header - not "Cc:".
At least that is how my Thunderbird apparently works...


Dominik

Sage Gerard

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Jan 1, 2021, 5:56:14 PM1/1/21
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> "Proper mail systems" "Now you know the reason" grrr grrrr!

Relax, I come in peace.

Clients aren't created equal. I don't have a "reply to list" button.
I have "Reply" and "Reply All". I went through some settings to see
if there's a way to enable the feature, but no luck.

I do, however, have other features that keep me on this client.
I don't expect the list to change their settings for the sake of one
client any more than others would expect me to change clients for the
sake of a list. That's why this is only a request.

Going off Dominick's email, it would help to at least make sure the list appears
in "To:" and not "Cc:", because then users of improper mail systems like me can
quickly backspace out the individual recipients. As it stands now each of my replies
has to re-addressed from scratch. I would think that in most cases, the typical
behavior is to reply to the list and the exceptional behavior is to go off list.
If that's true, is there something wrong with making the default behavior
more accessible to more clients?


~slg

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Sage Gerard

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Jan 1, 2021, 5:57:07 PM1/1/21
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Dominik*, apologies.


~slg

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Hendrik Boom

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Jan 1, 2021, 7:20:07 PM1/1/21
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The mailing list is identified in the following headers:

Precedence: list
Mailing-list: list us...@plt-scheme.org; contact users+...@plt-scheme.org
List-ID: <users.plt-scheme.org>

But when I just tried reply-to-list on the message I'm replying to, all
I was told was
No mailing lists found!

So evidently something isn't working properly here, either; even though
I do have a reply-to-list function.

Is there something else subtly wrong with the mail headers? Or do I
have to do something weird to mutt to get it to behave?

-- hendrik

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Hendrik Boom

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Jan 1, 2021, 7:23:00 PM1/1/21
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On Fri, Jan 01, 2021 at 10:56:01PM +0000, Sage Gerard wrote:
> > "Proper mail systems" "Now you know the reason" grrr grrrr!
>
> Relax, I come in peace.
>
> Clients aren't created equal. I don't have a "reply to list" button.
> I have "Reply" and "Reply All". I went through some settings to see
> if there's a way to enable the feature, but no luck.
>
> I do, however, have other features that keep me on this client.
> I don't expect the list to change their settings for the sake of one
> client any more than others would expect me to change clients for the
> sake of a list. That's why this is only a request.
>
> Going off Dominick's email, it would help to at least make sure the list appears
> in "To:" and not "Cc:", because then users of improper mail systems like me can
> quickly backspace out the individual recipients. As it stands now each of my replies
> has to re-addressed from scratch. I would think that in most cases, the typical
> behavior is to reply to the list and the exceptional behavior is to go off list.
> If that's true, is there something wrong with making the default behavior
> more accessible to more clients?

It *is* possible to list more than one recipient in the To line.

-- hendrik

>
>
> ~slg
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On Friday, January 1, 2021 2:16 PM, Hendrik Boom <hen...@topoi.pooq.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Jan 01, 2021 at 04:31:56PM +0000, Sage Gerard wrote:
> >
> > > The Reply-To experience for this list seems wrong.
> > > Clicking normal "Reply" sets the reply to the person who last sent an email to the thread, but not the list address.
> > > Clicking "Reply All" sends a copy of the email to an increasingly larger list of people, with the mail list CC'd. The extra copies can be annoying for some, but it's a pain to manually edit the email recipients every time such that only the user list is in the To: field.
> >
> > Proper mail systems use "reply to" indicate that the sender is sending
> > from a location that is not where he wants to receive email. This might
> > be because he is, for example, temprarily away from home.
> >
> > "Reply all" is indeed to send to everybody nvilved in the message.
> >
> > Proper mail systems also provide a command "reply to list". The proper
> > fix is to make sure your mail system supports reply to list.
> >
> > > Unless there's a reason to keep it this way, can the email list admin please see if this thread's solution still works for making Reply-To default to us...@racket-lang.org? https://support.google.com/a/thread/11037574?hl=en
> >
> > Now you know the reason. It makes it possible to reply to the original
> > author where he can receive email, and independently to reply to the
> > list.
> >
> > -- hendrik
>
>
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Andreas Perstinger

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Jan 1, 2021, 11:05:08 PM1/1/21
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On 02.01.21 01:19, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> So evidently something isn't working properly here, either; even though
> I do have a reply-to-list function.
>
> Is there something else subtly wrong with the mail headers? Or do I
> have to do something weird to mutt to get it to behave?

I think there should be a "List-Post" header:
https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2369.html#section-3.4

At least that header is necessary for Thunderbird to show the "Reply List"
button.

Bye, Andreas
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