i18n / translations

[Christopher Lemmer Webber]

How are people currently translating their programs?
I expected to see a gettext library or something, but haven't.

I see that DrRacket is translated, but I did a few simple greps through
the DrRacket repo and couldn't figure out how.

Am I missing something? Or is this tooling that needs to be written?
- cwebb

[Bogdan Popa]

> How are people currently translating their programs?

I was searching for a way to do l10n yesterday[1] and the best I could
find was SRFI 29[2] from srfi-lib.

[1]: https://github.com/Bogdanp/racket-webapp-template/commit/7647b2f2f460d1ede4f468e00f4dea62a541ee6e#diff-9978fbdfa51cde9daace605e88cc9c6c
[2]: https://srfi.schemers.org/srfi-29/srfi-29.html

[Greg Trzeciak]

look into: https://github.com/racket/string-constants

for the way DrRacket gets translations/internationalization

[Roman Klochkov]

Now we have gettext: https://docs.racket-lang.org/gettext/index.html

суббота, 9 февраля 2019 г., 18:56:59 UTC+5 пользователь cwebber написал:

[Bogdan Popa]

This is great! Thank you.

[Alexander Shopov]

We should be able to convert to and from po format to racket's own one.

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[Roman Klochkov]

What is racket's own one? srfi-29? String-constants?

Neither of them support plurals and contexts. Or do you mean something else?

вторник, 1 октября 2019 г., 16:06:35 UTC+5 пользователь Alexander Shopov написал:

We should be able to convert to and from po format to racket's own one.

На вт, 1.10.2019 г. в 11:11 ч. Bogdan Popa <bog...@defn.io> написа:

This is great!  Thank you.

Roman Klochkov writes:

> Now we have gettext: https://docs.racket-lang.org/gettext/index.html
>
> суббота, 9 февраля 2019 г., 18:56:59 UTC+5 пользователь cwebber написал:
>>
>> How are people currently translating their programs?
>> I expected to see a gettext library or something, but haven't.
>>
>> I see that DrRacket is translated, but I did a few simple greps through
>> the DrRacket repo and couldn't figure out how.
>>
>> Am I missing something?  Or is this tooling that needs to be written?
>>  - cwebb
>>

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[Alexander Shopov]

String constants:

    https://docs.racket-lang.org/string-constants/index.html

    https://github.com/racket/string-constants

I agree they do not support plurals and context, which should mean it would be possible to convert the s-expressions (of Racker messages, not the general case) to po-file and back again.

There are better tools to edit the translations in po-format compared to doing that directly as s-expressions.

Kind regards:

al_shopov

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[Roman Klochkov]

 It is not possible to translate po-file to string-constants, because

msgid "One file removed"
msgid_plural "%d files removed"
msgstr[0] "%d slika je uklonjena"
msgstr[1] "%d datoteke uklonjenih"
msgstr[2] "%d slika uklonjenih"

cannot be represented in string-constants.

And vice versa,

(dont-exit "Cancel")
(dont-quit "Cancel")

cannot be represented in gettext po-file, where english representation is the msgid.

I can easyly write one-way converter

(id "text") 

->

msgid "id"
msgstr "text"
but is it really useful?

среда, 2 октября 2019 г., 16:36:55 UTC+5 пользователь Alexander Shopov написал:

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[Alexander Shopov]

You're overgeneralising. Po-files support more things than string constants format however that is not important in the context of translating Racket. You can convert string constants to po, translate and then convert back.

Comments can become translator comments.

Pointers can be modelled with mshstr contexts.

Maintaining a translation in po is easier than as string constants file.

Regards:

al_shopov