power9 and qubes os

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Johnysecured88

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Jun 23, 2017, 8:24:54 PM6/23/17
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Seriously, is power9 support at least a possibility for qubes os? It seems absurd that we should only focus on x86 given how locked down and backdoored it is.


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Tai...@gmx.com

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Jun 24, 2017, 12:10:43 AM6/24/17
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On 06/23/2017 08:24 PM, 'Johnysecured88' via qubes-users wrote:

> Seriously, is power9 support at least a possibility for qubes os? It seems absurd that we should only focus on x86 given how locked down and backdoored it is.
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If you have the the type of job that allows you to purchase a server
that costs as much as a nice used car you probably know how to compile a
distro or pay someone to do so so there isn't anything stopping you from
compiling it for POWER, but yes I also can't understand the rabid x86
fixation that the linux community has some people even say "oh power is
expensive and thats lame" as if you wouldn't pay just as much for an
intel offering with equivalent performance.

You could also compile it for ARM and get a performance server board or
something.

If you don't mind me asking what do you need all this security for? I am
always curious - as for me there really isn't any reason besides it
being cool in of itself.

Johnysecured88

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Jun 24, 2017, 9:28:27 AM6/24/17
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I understand compiling for another arch is not difficult, but are there not any special requirements from Qubes/Xen which are ISA based?


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Tai...@gmx.com

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Jun 24, 2017, 8:11:39 PM6/24/17
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On 06/24/2017 09:28 AM, Johnysecured88 wrote:

> I understand compiling for another arch is not difficult, but are there not any special requirements from Qubes/Xen which are ISA based?
None as far as I know, you could probably do it without much difficulty.

Johnysecured88

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Jun 24, 2017, 8:16:18 PM6/24/17
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Are you a developer? Can we get input from a developer on this issue?


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Subject: Re: [qubes-users] power9 and qubes os
Local Time: June 24, 2017 7:11 PM
UTC Time: June 25, 2017 12:11 AM
To: Johnysecured88 <johnyse...@protonmail.com>

On 06/24/2017 09:28 AM, Johnysecured88 wrote:

&gt; I understand compiling for another arch is not difficult, but are there not any special requirements from Qubes/Xen which are ISA based?
None as far as I know, you could probably do it without much difficulty.
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&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [qubes-users] power9 and qubes os
&gt;&gt; Local Time: June 23, 2017 11:10 PM
&gt;&gt; UTC Time: June 24, 2017 4:10 AM
&gt;&gt; From: Tai...@gmx.com
&gt;&gt; To: Johnysecured88 , qubes...@googlegroups.com
&gt;&gt; On 06/23/2017 08:24 PM, "Johnysecured88" via qubes-users wrote:
&gt;&gt;&gt; Seriously, is power9 support at least a possibility for qubes os? It seems absurd that we should only focus on x86 given how locked down and backdoored it is.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;&gt; Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email.
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; If you have the the type of job that allows you to purchase a server
&gt;&gt; that costs as much as a nice used car you probably know how to compile a
&gt;&gt; distro or pay someone to do so so there isn"t anything stopping you from
&gt;&gt; compiling it for POWER, but yes I also can"t understand the rabid x86
&gt;&gt; fixation that the linux community has some people even say "oh power is
&gt;&gt; expensive and thats lame" as if you wouldn"t pay just as much for an
&gt;&gt; intel offering with equivalent performance.
&gt;&gt; You could also compile it for ARM and get a performance server board or
&gt;&gt; something.
&gt;&gt; If you don"t mind me asking what do you need all this security for? I am
&gt;&gt; always curious - as for me there really isn"t any reason besides it
&gt;&gt; being cool in of itself.

Tai...@gmx.com

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Jun 25, 2017, 8:09:04 AM6/25/17
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On 06/24/2017 08:16 PM, Johnysecured88 wrote:

> Are you a developer?
No.
> Can we get input from a developer on this issue?
You should email the community liaison, as it is definitely a question
worth asking.
a...@qubes-os.org
If you want a supported build done by them you would probably have to
provide the funds for a new/used recent POWER system.

Thierry Laurion

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Mar 25, 2018, 12:06:25 PM3/25/18
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Xen doesn't support Power9 for the moment.
Qubes still depends on Xen for compartmentalization.
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