Can't start apps from menu/app finder but can from dom0?

[Stumpy]

The subject says most of it. I can start apps from a dom0 terminal with
qvm-run but cant figure why I cant do it via the xfce menu or app
finder. I tried running using qvm-sync-appmenus appvm but that didnt
help. Thoughts?

[Stumpy]

The last two times (just tried rebooting the system) i tried to start an
app up from the dom0 terminal now i cant even do that... so, is it
possible to do something like mount an appvm so i can copy the important
info off of it?

[Stumpy]

new observation, it seems to be related to the template, debian 10 in
this case.
I switched the template for the aapvm i wasnt able to start up and
viola! it opened up, then i tried to make a new appvm based on the deb10
template and, no go, nothing would start?
what about a template would cause an appvm not to start?

[unman]

What have you done to the template?
There are many things you might have done , including deleting (by
mistake) Qubes packages etc. This is why it's generally a good idea to
keep a spare vanilla template hanging about, so you can rebuild as
necessary.

[Stumpy]

On 2020-09-28 09:15, unman wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 10:54:46PM -0400, Stumpy wrote:
>> On 2020-09-27 21:42, Stumpy wrote:
>>> On 2020-09-27 19:59, Stumpy wrote:
>>>> The subject says most of it. I can start apps from a dom0 terminal
>>>> with qvm-run but cant figure why I cant do it via the xfce menu or
>>>> app finder. I tried running using qvm-sync-appmenus appvm but that
>>>> didnt help. Thoughts?
>>>>
>>> The last two times (just tried rebooting the system) i tried to start an
>>> app up from the dom0 terminal now i cant even do that... so, is it
>>> possible to do something like mount an appvm so i can copy the important
>>> info off of it?
>>>
>> new observation, it seems to be related to the template, debian 10 in this
>> case.
>> I switched the template for the aapvm i wasnt able to start up and viola! it
>> opened up, then i tried to make a new appvm based on the deb10 template and,
>> no go, nothing would start?
>> what about a template would cause an appvm not to start?
>>
>
> What have you done to the template?

AFAIK nothing.

> There are many things you might have done , including deleting (by
> mistake) Qubes packages etc.

well anything is possible but i am pretty sure i did not delete any
packages lately, qubes or otherwise.

> This is why it's generally a good idea to
> keep a spare vanilla template hanging about, so you can rebuild as
> necessary.

noted.

Regardless, i thought in the past i was able to reinstall or install
another but now that is giving me problems?


[bob@dom0 ~]$ sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=reinstall
qubes-template-debian-10
WARNING: Replacing a template will erase all files in template's /home
and /rw !
usage: qvm-shutdown [--verbose] [--quiet] [--help] [--all] [--exclude
EXCLUDE]
[--wait] [--timeout TIMEOUT] [--force]
[VMNAME [VMNAME ...]]
qvm-shutdown: error: no such domain: 'debian-10'
Using sys-whonix as UpdateVM to download updates for Dom0; this may take
some time...
fedora/metalink | 5.8 kB
00:00
fedora | 4.3 kB
00:00
fedora/primary_db | 26 MB
04:48
qubes-dom0-current/metalink | 2.7 kB
00:00
qubes-dom0-current | 3.8 kB
00:00
qubes-dom0-current/primary_db | 3.9 MB
00:51
qubes-templates-itl/metalink | 2.7 kB
00:00
qubes-templates-itl | 3.0 kB
00:00
qubes-templates-itl/primary_db | 21 kB
00:00
updates/metalink | 5.5 kB
00:00
updates | 4.7 kB
00:00
updates/primary_db | 12 MB
02:02
--> Running transaction check
---> Package qubes-template-debian-10.noarch 0:4.0.1-201910230150 will
be reinstalled
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
https://mirrors.dotsrc.org/qubes/repo/yum/r4.0/templates-itl/rpm/qubes-template-debian-10-4.0.1-201910230150.noarch.rpm:
[Errno 14] curl#56 - "GnuTLS recv error (-9): Error decoding the
received TLS packet."
Trying other mirror.
qubes-template-debian-10-4.0.1-201910230150.noarch.rpm | 840 MB
237:54
Successfully verified
/var/lib/qubes/dom0-updates/packages/qubes-template-debian-10-4.0.1-201910230150.noarch.rpm
usage: qvm-prefs [--verbose] [--quiet] [--help] [--help-properties]
[--hide-default] [--get] [--set] [--default]
VMNAME [PROPERTY] [VALUE]
qvm-prefs: error: no such domain: 'debian-10'
Qubes OS Repository for Dom0
25
MB/s | 26 kB 00:00
No match for argument: qubes-template-debian-10
Error: Nothing to do.

huh?