On 03/13/18 07:27, Yuraeitha wrote:
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> First, I'll apologize if I sound a bit grumpy today, it's not on you, and I hope you will remember that below, even though I strongly disagree with you, it's nonetheless nothing personal.
No offense taken here. You have a right to be grumpy!
> Originally the off-topic I made was secondary mentions, my on-topic was the reason for posting, which was to make others aware why their post are deleted too here on Qubes users mailing list. I actually searched for an existing thread on it, but I found none, hence why I made this post for future users who use the search system for this issue, and not just the current users.
What if any evidence of deliberate censorship do we have? Are there
keywords that target ones email for censorship? For what reason do you
think your email was specifically targeted?
I would agree that any censorship is likely from "a bot" in the sense of
an algorithm running on a machine at Google, but then why should I just
throw up my hands and _not_ contact them to tell them they are screwing
up badly? Even a bot can be tweaked to minimize collateral damage.
When somebody wrongs you in this way as you are suggesting, they are
actually wronging us as a group, and we should stand up and push back,
or nothing will ever change. So far you have not told us why this should
be seen as a deliberate and/or malicious act. I may have missed it,
that's quite possible, and I would appreciate being corrected if that is
the case. I still think/feel its a matter of incompetence on some level
without at least some evidence pointing to the contrary. If there is
hard evidence of it, then there is all the more reason to complain. Its
the volume of the public back-pressure that will illicit changes in
corporate behavior, so the more complaints the faster the fix.
This reminds me of a situation with the Chinese government censorship,
where some analysts monitored their social media and watched for what
messages disappeared. After analyzing the messages that went missing
they determined exactly what kinds of issues they were specifically
censoring. The reasoning and logic of what they were doing was then
public and the people could adjust to remain under the radar. That same
technique could be used here if one could determine at what step in that
exchange process those things were being censored. Knowing what they are
censoring would be quite newsworthy.
btw - With 100% probability, this reply would have been censored by the
Chinese government. Any guesses why? It may not be what you think.