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Oh, I see now that you also found the other thread by NewbieG. So, it looks like it may be the same issue.
For anyone else, this is the thread:
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/qubes-users/u7COjQTy1_I/discussion
Already added to qubes-issue #1981:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/1981#issuecomment-236744342
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