Partially off-topic: best OpenVPN-Set-up with Qubes 3.2, AirVPN and Turris Omnia router?

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rob_66

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May 27, 2017, 6:09:57 PM5/27/17
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Hello all.

What do you think would produce the best balance between security and
speed?

1. Running AirVPN's client 'Eddie' in sys-netVM.

2. Putting AirVPN's OpenVPN config into Turris Omnia 2 GB router.

3. Setting up a VPN gateway in Qubes as described in Qubes' docs.

Hardware: Asus »Zenbook«, Intel i5-5200U, 2.20 GHz, 12 GB RAM.

Any hint is very much appreciated.

Best regards,
rob
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Chris Laprise

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May 27, 2017, 7:50:07 PM5/27/17
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On 05/27/2017 06:09 PM, rob_66 wrote:
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> Hello all.
>
> What do you think would produce the best balance between security and
> speed?
>
> 1. Running AirVPN's client 'Eddie' in sys-netVM.
>
> 2. Putting AirVPN's OpenVPN config into Turris Omnia 2 GB router.
>
> 3. Setting up a VPN gateway in Qubes as described in Qubes' docs.
>
> Hardware: Asus »Zenbook«, Intel i5-5200U, 2.20 GHz, 12 GB RAM.
>
> Any hint is very much appreciated.
>
> Best regards,
> rob

Best overall approach is to download your service's openvpn config files
and continue with the doc instructions or the slightly fancier setup here:

https://github.com/tasket/Qubes-vpn-support

The one at the link (my own project) configures the link as a systemd
service... gives you more control. The anti-leak measures are the same.

I haven't looked at 'Eddie' but usually these proprietary tools assume
you are configuring a traditional PC. OTOH, Qubes proxyVMs are akin to
_routers_ so protection features in Eddie et al might not work. (Anyway
it would go in a proxyVM, not sys-net.) There was some discussion here I
think about Mullvad and that service's special tool, and ultimately it
was better to download the config files and use the Qubes-specific
instructions.

As for Turris Omnia router setup, it depends on how much you trust the
security of that router -- generally, openvpn is safer in Qubes than in
router hardware (even the 'impressive' ones).

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rob_66

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May 28, 2017, 7:49:43 AM5/28/17
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rob_66:
>> What do you think would produce the best balance between security
>> and speed?
>>
>> 1. Running AirVPN's client 'Eddie' in sys-netVM.
>>
>> 2. Putting AirVPN's OpenVPN config into Turris Omnia 2 GB
>> router.
>>
>> 3. Setting up a VPN gateway in Qubes as described in Qubes'
>> docs.
>>
>> Hardware: Asus »Zenbook«, Intel i5-5200U, 2.20 GHz, 12 GB RAM.


Chris Laprise:
> Best overall approach is to download your service's openvpn config
> files and continue with the doc instructions or the slightly
> fancier setup here:
>
> https://github.com/tasket/Qubes-vpn-support
>
> The one at the link (my own project) configures the link as a
> systemd service... gives you more control. The anti-leak measures
> are the same.
>
> I haven't looked at 'Eddie' but usually these proprietary tools
> assume you are configuring a traditional PC. OTOH, Qubes proxyVMs
> are akin to _routers_ so protection features in Eddie et al might
> not work. (Anyway it would go in a proxyVM, not sys-net.) There was
> some discussion here I think about Mullvad and that service's
> special tool, and ultimately it was better to download the config
> files and use the Qubes-specific instructions.
>
> As for Turris Omnia router setup, it depends on how much you trust
> the security of that router -- generally, openvpn is safer in Qubes
> than in router hardware (even the 'impressive' ones).


Hello again.

Even as a medium talented/experienced Qubes and Linux user I managed
to run your »slightly fancier« setup successfully in less than an
hour, following the instructions slowly, step by step.

Speeds are impressive also, > 60 MBit/s (100 MBit max. according to
the ISP) – I never reached this with my VPN before, neither with the
»impressive« Turris Omnia.

AirVPN's 'Eddie' client seems to work fine, too, but I'm not sure if
the protection features are working correctly. Maybe more advanced
users would get a grip on 'Eddies' numerous settings.

Thank you so much, Chris!

Best regards,

rob

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