Fedora 24 Template for Qubes 3.1?
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Joonas Lehtonen
Nov 20, 2016, 3:17:15 PM11/20/16
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Hi,
since Qubes 3.1 is supported until 2017-03-29
according to
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/supported-versions/
does that mean we will see a Fedora 24 template for R3.1 before Fedora
23 reaches EOL?
thanks,
Joonas
since Qubes 3.1 is supported until 2017-03-29
according to
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/supported-versions/
does that mean we will see a Fedora 24 template for R3.1 before Fedora
23 reaches EOL?
thanks,
Joonas
Achim Patzner
Nov 21, 2016, 10:45:39 AM11/21/16
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> Am 20.11.2016 um 21:16 schrieb Joonas Lehtonen <joonas....@openmailbox.org>:
>
> Hi,
>
> since Qubes 3.1 is supported until 2017-03-29
Achim
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Nov 21, 2016, 10:25:36 PM11/21/16
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That's a good question. Surely not major changes in behaviour (new
features etc). But for the other two categories I'd say yes.
AFAIR there was some major incompatibility in qubes-core-vm package in
R3.1 preventing it being fully compatible with Fedora 24 (and requiring
a change falling far outside of "bug fixes" category). But after brief
test, it looks like my memory fails me (maybe that was about R3.0?) and
the only needed thing was replacing tabs with spaces in one file:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-gui-agent-linux/commit/16c98bc7ebebc0c4025ab02ec2e5bbf4dc9a77d2
So, expect Fedora 24 template being supported in R3.1 soon too :)
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Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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features etc). But for the other two categories I'd say yes.
AFAIR there was some major incompatibility in qubes-core-vm package in
R3.1 preventing it being fully compatible with Fedora 24 (and requiring
a change falling far outside of "bug fixes" category). But after brief
test, it looks like my memory fails me (maybe that was about R3.0?) and
the only needed thing was replacing tabs with spaces in one file:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-gui-agent-linux/commit/16c98bc7ebebc0c4025ab02ec2e5bbf4dc9a77d2
So, expect Fedora 24 template being supported in R3.1 soon too :)
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Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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Steve Coleman
Nov 22, 2016, 11:12:45 AM11/22/16
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I tried to upgrade a Qubes 3.1 system to use FC24 a while back, and dnf
itself broke badly, stating something about not having a python "Goal",
having something to do with the python module missing some feature or
module. The template was therefor unusable, since it could not be
maintained. I don't have access to that machine right now so I can't
give you the exact error message.
Because of this the upgrade broke and the system was unable to install
or upgrade anything after that, except by using other software
installers from KDE/Gnome, but could never get dnf reinstalled/upgraded
and happy. Without having access from there to a 3.2 system I was unable
to determine what packages needed fixing within dnf to get past that.
I tried this several times, and even did some local RPM installs to try
and fix dnf, and all attempts failed the same way. I also tried backing
up a 3.2 FC24 template and restoring it to that 3.1 machine but 3.1
failed to even start the vm. Obviously I needed to replace the Qubes 3.2
components for it to start as a 3.1 template. That also went nowhere.
At this point, upgrading all existing systems to at least FC24 is
important since today FC25 just was announced, and therefor FC23 support
is ending. If I get time I will be looking at upgrading a Qubes 3.2
template to FC25, unless anyone knows a reason that will not fly? I
figure it could not hurt to try.
Steve
itself broke badly, stating something about not having a python "Goal",
having something to do with the python module missing some feature or
module. The template was therefor unusable, since it could not be
maintained. I don't have access to that machine right now so I can't
give you the exact error message.
Because of this the upgrade broke and the system was unable to install
or upgrade anything after that, except by using other software
installers from KDE/Gnome, but could never get dnf reinstalled/upgraded
and happy. Without having access from there to a 3.2 system I was unable
to determine what packages needed fixing within dnf to get past that.
I tried this several times, and even did some local RPM installs to try
and fix dnf, and all attempts failed the same way. I also tried backing
up a 3.2 FC24 template and restoring it to that 3.1 machine but 3.1
failed to even start the vm. Obviously I needed to replace the Qubes 3.2
components for it to start as a 3.1 template. That also went nowhere.
At this point, upgrading all existing systems to at least FC24 is
important since today FC25 just was announced, and therefor FC23 support
is ending. If I get time I will be looking at upgrading a Qubes 3.2
template to FC25, unless anyone knows a reason that will not fly? I
figure it could not hurt to try.
Steve
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