How to manually remove a VM?
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almigh...@gmail.com
Dec 18, 2016, 9:29:42 PM12/18/16
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So I made a HVM Template and renamed it through VM Manager, something went wrong and the VM Manager did not reflect the name change. (Can't seem to reproduce this bug)
I was just wondering if I've successfully removed the HVM Template manually. The process I went through was:
1. Remove template folder from /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates
2. Remove old template reference from VM Manager (or manually from qubes.xml)
3. Remove template's *.desktop files from ~/.local/share/applications
Is there any files I have missed? Also, perhaps a short doc with this would be useful for when things go wrong and a VM needs to be manually removed.
Thanks
Andrew David Wong
Dec 19, 2016, 1:03:06 AM12/19/16
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On 2016-12-18 18:29, almigh...@gmail.com wrote:
> So I made a HVM Template and renamed it through VM Manager,
> something went wrong and the VM Manager did not reflect the name
> change. (Can't seem to reproduce this bug)
>
> I was just wondering if I've successfully removed the HVM Template
> manually. The process I went through was:
>
> 1. Remove template folder from /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates 2.
> Remove old template reference from VM Manager (or manually from
> qubes.xml)
How did you perform this step? Did you manually edit qubes.xml?
> 3. Remove template's *.desktop files from
> ~/.local/share/applications
>
I can't immediately think of anything else to remove. At any rate,
these should be the most important ones.
There's also:
qvm-remove --just-db <vm-name>
which only removes the entry from the Qubes Xen DB without removing
any files. What exactly does "Xen DB" refer to in this context, Marek?
> Is there any files I have missed? Also, perhaps a short doc with
> this would be useful for when things go wrong and a VM needs to be
> manually removed.
>
> Thanks
>
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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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On 2016-12-18 18:29, almigh...@gmail.com wrote:
> So I made a HVM Template and renamed it through VM Manager,
> something went wrong and the VM Manager did not reflect the name
> change. (Can't seem to reproduce this bug)
>
> I was just wondering if I've successfully removed the HVM Template
> manually. The process I went through was:
>
> 1. Remove template folder from /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates 2.
> Remove old template reference from VM Manager (or manually from
> qubes.xml)
> 3. Remove template's *.desktop files from
> ~/.local/share/applications
>
these should be the most important ones.
There's also:
qvm-remove --just-db <vm-name>
which only removes the entry from the Qubes Xen DB without removing
any files. What exactly does "Xen DB" refer to in this context, Marek?
> Is there any files I have missed? Also, perhaps a short doc with
> this would be useful for when things go wrong and a VM needs to be
> manually removed.
>
> Thanks
>
Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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v3g4n
Dec 19, 2016, 1:57:45 AM12/19/16
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On 12/19/2016 02:29 AM,
I will let someone more knowledgeable on the manual removal process
answer, but why not just remove it using Qubes VM Manager? Just curious
about the manual process?
answer, but why not just remove it using Qubes VM Manager? Just curious
about the manual process?
almigh...@gmail.com
Dec 19, 2016, 7:35:33 PM12/19/16
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On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 4:33:06 PM UTC+10:30, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> How did you perform this step? Did you manually edit qubes.xml?
> How did you perform this step? Did you manually edit qubes.xml?
The VM Manager allowed me to 'remove' the VM. Because the VM was renamed, as far as I can tell it just removed it from qubes.xml.
On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 5:27:45 PM UTC+10:30, v3g4n wrote:
> I will let someone more knowledgeable on the manual removal process
> answer, but why not just remove it using Qubes VM Manager? Just curious
> about the manual process?
A bug in the VM Manager occured when I went to rename a VM, the VM files were renamed but the VM Manager didn't update it's records and still showed the old name. It leaves a bunch of references to something that no longer exists (in the VM Manager and in the application menu). I haven't succeeded in reproducing this bug, I was renaming a HVM template I had just installed an OS onto and shutdown.
Of course manually removing VMs is not the ideal way to do it, but unfortunately things sometimes go wrong like it did for me.
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Dec 19, 2016, 7:51:23 PM12/19/16
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On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 10:02:54PM -0800, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> On 2016-12-18 18:29, almigh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > So I made a HVM Template and renamed it through VM Manager,
> > something went wrong and the VM Manager did not reflect the name
> > change. (Can't seem to reproduce this bug)
> >
> > I was just wondering if I've successfully removed the HVM Template
> > manually. The process I went through was:
> >
> > 1. Remove template folder from /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates 2.
> > Remove old template reference from VM Manager (or manually from
> > qubes.xml)
>
> How did you perform this step? Did you manually edit qubes.xml?
>
> > 3. Remove template's *.desktop files from
> > ~/.local/share/applications
> >
>
> I can't immediately think of anything else to remove. At any rate,
> these should be the most important ones.
>
> There's also:
>
> qvm-remove --just-db <vm-name>
>
> which only removes the entry from the Qubes Xen DB without removing
> any files. What exactly does "Xen DB" refer to in this context, Marek?
I think this is bug in help message. It's about qubes.xml. Do we have
some other term for it?
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Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 10:02:54PM -0800, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> On 2016-12-18 18:29, almigh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > So I made a HVM Template and renamed it through VM Manager,
> > something went wrong and the VM Manager did not reflect the name
> > change. (Can't seem to reproduce this bug)
> >
> > I was just wondering if I've successfully removed the HVM Template
> > manually. The process I went through was:
> >
> > 1. Remove template folder from /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates 2.
> > Remove old template reference from VM Manager (or manually from
> > qubes.xml)
>
> How did you perform this step? Did you manually edit qubes.xml?
>
> > 3. Remove template's *.desktop files from
> > ~/.local/share/applications
> >
>
> I can't immediately think of anything else to remove. At any rate,
> these should be the most important ones.
>
> There's also:
>
> qvm-remove --just-db <vm-name>
>
> which only removes the entry from the Qubes Xen DB without removing
> any files. What exactly does "Xen DB" refer to in this context, Marek?
some other term for it?
- --
Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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Andrew David Wong
Dec 20, 2016, 3:30:55 AM12/20/16
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On 2016-12-19 16:51, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 10:02:54PM -0800, Andrew David Wong wrote:
>> There's also:
>
>> qvm-remove --just-db <vm-name>
>
>> which only removes the entry from the Qubes Xen DB without
>> removing any files. What exactly does "Xen DB" refer to in this
>> context, Marek?
>
> I think this is bug in help message. It's about qubes.xml. Do we
> have some other term for it?
>
Ok, just an inconsistency in the help message, then. No, I'm not aware
of any other term for it. PR submitted:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-core-admin/pull/84
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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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On 2016-12-19 16:51, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 10:02:54PM -0800, Andrew David Wong wrote:
>> There's also:
>
>> qvm-remove --just-db <vm-name>
>
>> which only removes the entry from the Qubes Xen DB without
>> removing any files. What exactly does "Xen DB" refer to in this
>> context, Marek?
>
> I think this is bug in help message. It's about qubes.xml. Do we
> have some other term for it?
>
of any other term for it. PR submitted:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-core-admin/pull/84
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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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Andrew David Wong
Dec 20, 2016, 8:51:47 AM12/20/16
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On 2016-12-18 18:29, almigh...@gmail.com wrote:
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/remove-vm-manually/
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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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