Fedora 28 has reached EOL
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Andrew David Wong
May 30, 2019, 12:32:49 AM5/30/19
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Dear Qubes Community,
Fedora 28 has reached EOL (end-of-life). [1] We strongly recommend that
all Qubes users upgrade their Fedora 28 TemplateVMs and StandaloneVMs to
Fedora 29 immediately. We provide step-by-step upgrade instructions for
upgrading from Fedora 28 to 29. [2] For a complete list of TemplateVM
versions supported for your specific version of Qubes, see Supported
TemplateVM Versions. [3]
We also provide a fresh Fedora 29 TemplateVM package through the
official Qubes repositories, which you can install in dom0 by following
the standard installation instructions. [4]
After upgrading your TemplateVMs, please remember to set all qubes that
were using the old template to use the new one. The instructions to do
this can be found in the upgrade instructions for Fedora 28 to 29. [2]
Please note that no user action is required regarding the OS version in
dom0. For details, please see our Note on dom0 and EOL. [5]
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/End_of_life
[2] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-28-to-29/
[3] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/supported-versions/#templatevms
[4] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/fedora/#installing
[5] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/supported-versions/#note-on-dom0-and-eol
This announcement is also available on the Qubes website:
https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2019/05/29/fedora-28-eol/
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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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Dear Qubes Community,
Fedora 28 has reached EOL (end-of-life). [1] We strongly recommend that
all Qubes users upgrade their Fedora 28 TemplateVMs and StandaloneVMs to
Fedora 29 immediately. We provide step-by-step upgrade instructions for
upgrading from Fedora 28 to 29. [2] For a complete list of TemplateVM
versions supported for your specific version of Qubes, see Supported
TemplateVM Versions. [3]
We also provide a fresh Fedora 29 TemplateVM package through the
official Qubes repositories, which you can install in dom0 by following
the standard installation instructions. [4]
After upgrading your TemplateVMs, please remember to set all qubes that
were using the old template to use the new one. The instructions to do
this can be found in the upgrade instructions for Fedora 28 to 29. [2]
Please note that no user action is required regarding the OS version in
dom0. For details, please see our Note on dom0 and EOL. [5]
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/End_of_life
[2] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-28-to-29/
[3] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/supported-versions/#templatevms
[4] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/fedora/#installing
[5] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/supported-versions/#note-on-dom0-and-eol
This announcement is also available on the Qubes website:
https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2019/05/29/fedora-28-eol/
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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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Chris Laprise
May 30, 2019, 2:38:53 PM5/30/19
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I'm getting strangeness from the fedora-30 release:
1. As soon as the template installed I started it and ran 'dnf update'.
It downloaded repo data then said 'nothing to do'. Less than 2 minutes
later I get a popup saying fedora-30 has updates available.... I run dnf
update again and there are 219 packages to update.
2. Trying to remove thunderbird, dnf wants to remove 67 packages incl.
most of qubes*, nftables, salt, tinyproxy. It would be good to be able
to remove thunderbird or other large apps without the OS crumbling to
pieces.
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Chris Laprise, tas...@posteo.net
https://github.com/tasket
https://twitter.com/ttaskett
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Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
May 30, 2019, 2:45:28 PM5/30/19
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On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 02:38:46PM -0400, Chris Laprise wrote:
>
> I'm getting strangeness from the fedora-30 release:
>
> 1. As soon as the template installed I started it and ran 'dnf update'. It
> downloaded repo data then said 'nothing to do'. Less than 2 minutes later I
> get a popup saying fedora-30 has updates available.... I run dnf update
> again and there are 219 packages to update.
This is dnf thinking metadata cache is up to date. dnf update --refresh
should do the job.
> 2. Trying to remove thunderbird, dnf wants to remove 67 packages incl. most
> of qubes*, nftables, salt, tinyproxy. It would be good to be able to remove
> thunderbird or other large apps without the OS crumbling to pieces.
Try dnf --setopt=clean_requirements_on_remove=0 remove thunderbird
clean_requirements_on_remove=True behaves like 'apt autoremove'. And
qubes-vm-recommended depends on thunderbird-qubes, which depends on
thunderbird. So when you remove thunderbird, qubes-vm-recommended needs
to be removed too.
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Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 02:38:46PM -0400, Chris Laprise wrote:
>
> I'm getting strangeness from the fedora-30 release:
>
> 1. As soon as the template installed I started it and ran 'dnf update'. It
> downloaded repo data then said 'nothing to do'. Less than 2 minutes later I
> get a popup saying fedora-30 has updates available.... I run dnf update
> again and there are 219 packages to update.
should do the job.
> 2. Trying to remove thunderbird, dnf wants to remove 67 packages incl. most
> of qubes*, nftables, salt, tinyproxy. It would be good to be able to remove
> thunderbird or other large apps without the OS crumbling to pieces.
clean_requirements_on_remove=True behaves like 'apt autoremove'. And
qubes-vm-recommended depends on thunderbird-qubes, which depends on
thunderbird. So when you remove thunderbird, qubes-vm-recommended needs
to be removed too.
- --
Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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haaber
May 30, 2019, 7:46:35 PM5/30/19
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Just one question: which Fedora version is dom0 based on? Is there some
need for updates that I ignore? Bernhard
Andrew David Wong
May 30, 2019, 10:11:05 PM5/30/19
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On 30/05/2019 6.46 PM, haaber wrote:
> Just one question: which Fedora version is dom0 based on?
In Qubes 4.0, dom0 is based on Fedora 25.
This is always documented for every Qubes version here:
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/supported-versions/#dom0
> Is there some need for updates that I ignore?
No. Dom0 is isolated from domUs. DomUs can access only a few
interfaces, such as Xen, device backends (in the dom0 kernel and in
other VMs, such as the NetVM), and Qubes tools (gui-daemon,
qrexec-daemon, etc.). These components are security-critical, and we
provide updates for all of them (when necessary), regardless of the
support status of the base distribution. For this reason, we consider
it safe to continue using a given base distribution in dom0 even after
it has reached EOL (end-of-life).
This is documented here:
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/supported-versions/#note-on-dom0-and-eol
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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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On 30/05/2019 6.46 PM, haaber wrote:
> Just one question: which Fedora version is dom0 based on?
This is always documented for every Qubes version here:
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/supported-versions/#dom0
> Is there some need for updates that I ignore?
interfaces, such as Xen, device backends (in the dom0 kernel and in
other VMs, such as the NetVM), and Qubes tools (gui-daemon,
qrexec-daemon, etc.). These components are security-critical, and we
provide updates for all of them (when necessary), regardless of the
support status of the base distribution. For this reason, we consider
it safe to continue using a given base distribution in dom0 even after
it has reached EOL (end-of-life).
This is documented here:
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/supported-versions/#note-on-dom0-and-eol
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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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