dom0: no space left on device / Qubes partition size?

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dbo...@gmail.com

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Feb 11, 2016, 3:36:51 PM2/11/16
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Hi all,
Another noobs' question.
What is the right size for a qubes os install? I installed R3.1rc2 on a 26GB leftover partition, but obviously this is too small. I have the above error in dom0 when trying to run the hcl script.
I had the same on the Personal VM which I use to tinker around, and by erasing the FF cache (saving a mere 320MB), things would work again, including using KDE instead of xfce.
So:
1. what are the minimal/typical/comfortable partition sizes for a qubes install?
2. how to increase the size of the qubes partition (if it is possible?) Gparted seems to very able to do it.
thanks for your info!


Adrian Rocha

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Feb 11, 2016, 7:58:41 PM2/11/16
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Hi,

For this two questions there are different responses depending on how you installed Qubes and how you will use it. I will respond on basis a tipical instalation.


El jueves, 11 de febrero de 2016, 14:36:51 (UTC-6), dbo...@gmail.com escribió:
Hi all,
Another noobs' question.
What is the right size for a qubes os install? I installed R3.1rc2 on a 26GB leftover partition, but obviously this is too small. I have the above error in dom0 when trying to run the hcl script.
I had the same on the Personal VM which I use to tinker around, and by erasing the FF cache (saving a mere 320MB), things would work again, including using KDE instead of xfce.
So:
1. what are the minimal/typical/comfortable partition sizes for a qubes install?

1- It depends, if you will use only the Fedora minimal template, you can install and use Qubes in 26 GB. But, if you will install more templates like debian, whonix, etc. then you will need more space. And this is always ignoring the data that you will save in the app VMs.
 
2. how to increase the size of the qubes partition (if it is possible?) Gparted seems to very able to do it.
thanks for your info!


2- If you are using LVM partition, that is the proposed in the install, is easy to expand the Qubes main partition, you have to increase the LVM size adding contiguous space in the same disk or adding a new disk. And after that, you have to resize the main partition. There are many tutorials to do that, this is a good one:
 
Best Regards

Marek Marczykowski-Górecki

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Feb 11, 2016, 8:19:20 PM2/11/16
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 04:58:41PM -0800, Adrian Rocha wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For this two questions there are different responses depending on how you
> installed Qubes and how you will use it. I will respond on basis a tipical
> instalation.
>
> El jueves, 11 de febrero de 2016, 14:36:51 (UTC-6), dbo...@gmail.com
> escribió:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > Another noobs' question.
> > What is the right size for a qubes os install? I installed R3.1rc2 on a
> > 26GB leftover partition, but obviously this is too small. I have the above
> > error in dom0 when trying to run the hcl script.
> > I had the same on the Personal VM which I use to tinker around, and by
> > erasing the FF cache (saving a mere 320MB), things would work again,
> > including using KDE instead of xfce.
> > So:
> > 1. what are the minimal/typical/comfortable partition sizes for a qubes
> > install?
> >
>
> 1- It depends, if you will use only the Fedora minimal template, you can
> install and use Qubes in 26 GB. But, if you will install more templates
> like debian, whonix, etc. then you will need more space. And this is always
> ignoring the data that you will save in the app VMs.

Fresh installation of Qubes 3.1, with default settings (4 templates:
Debian, Fedora, 2x Whonix), uses 16GB. And that's without any your data.
As soon as you start anything (like Firefox, which will cache a lot),
you'll fill your 26GB really fast.

I think reasonable *minimum* is 32GB, but preferred 50GB or more. Of
course it all depends on how much data you want to have there.

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Feb 12, 2016, 1:47:45 AM2/12/16
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Thank you for your answers! Then if you add a windows hvm, plus a ubuntu one.... then the 250gb I have now unpartitioned will be all right!

Zrubi

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Feb 12, 2016, 3:08:12 AM2/12/16
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On 02/12/2016 02:19 AM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
> I think reasonable *minimum* is 32GB, but preferred 50GB or more.
> Of course it all depends on how much data you want to have there.

I was using R2 on a 64Gb SSD for a long time (as my main OS)
However I used 1 fedora and 1 fedora-minimal template.

That setup was usable - but with limitations.

I would say smaller that 64Gb disk space is only suitable for testing.


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dbo...@gmail.com

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Feb 16, 2016, 5:12:00 PM2/16/16
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@adrian: thanks so much for the link to the tutorial. I am slowly learning lvm...

dbo...@gmail.com

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Feb 17, 2016, 10:44:03 AM2/17/16
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Dear all,
Some help needed - yet!
I got to the point of resizing my /dev/sdb4 partition, which contains the LUKS partition, to fill the avalable size. Following the archlinux tutorial mentioned in above post, I tried too use pvresize, but pvresize /dev/sdb4 as well as pvresize /dev/mapper/luks... annoounce it is resized but no effective resizing is taking place . vgdisplay still gives 0 PE.

tnks

Adrian Rocha

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Feb 19, 2016, 4:52:32 PM2/19/16
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HI,
I see. You encrypted the partitions.
I'm not using an encrypted partition, I haven't experienced with that, but as I see, You cannot do the resize when the system is running, it's a more complicated process.

Maybe here you can find the answer:


Regards

Tray G

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Feb 14, 2021, 1:44:47 AM2/14/21
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hey , i need your help with qubes and installing partition on the usb to save files.. do you do it on the windows while you download Qubes in the terminal or once your first running qubes ?

awokd

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Feb 19, 2021, 4:55:56 AM2/19/21
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Tray G:
> hey , i need your help with qubes and installing partition on the usb to
> save files.. do you do it on the windows while you download Qubes in the
> terminal or once your first running qubes ?

If you're talking about creating a USB drive to install Qubes, see
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/installation-guide/#copying-the-iso-onto-the-installation-medium.

If you want to format a USB drive for use with Qubes once you have it
installed, it will be most straightforward to format it from Qubes.
There are some Microsoft FAT/NTFS formats Linux can work with out of the
box, but you have to add support for others it does not, which you can
avoid by formatting under Qubes/Linux in the first place.

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