Fedora 23 EOL December 20; Update Your Templates!

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Daniel Moerner

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Dec 9, 2016, 8:37:19 AM12/9/16
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Hi all,

Just a friendly reminder that Fedora 23 End of Life is December 20.[1] You may want to make sure you've updated your templates; there is a guide in the Qubes Documentation.[2]

I know I don't get to decide what people talk about, but I'd like to ask that people NOT use this thread to rehash the debate about the dom0 distribution. :)

Best,
Daniel

[1] https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-23-end-of-life/
[2] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-23-to-24/

Andrew David Wong

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Dec 9, 2016, 7:37:10 PM12/9/16
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Thanks for the reminder, Daniel. I'll also take this
opportunity to re-share our announcement from last month:

https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2016/11/15/fedora-24-template-available/

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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
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iamth...@gmail.com

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Dec 18, 2016, 8:27:02 PM12/18/16
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Is there a guide to update an existing VM to Fedora 24 while preserving it's contents? I upgraded the template per the instructions [1], but can't figure out how to upgrade my existing VMs while saving their data.

I can do a fresh Qubes install if necessary but would rather avoid it, if possible.

[1] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-23-to-24/

Andrew David Wong

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Dec 19, 2016, 12:33:29 AM12/19/16
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If you're referring to TemplateBasedVMs such as AppVMs, then there's
no need to upgrade them. One of the main features of the template
system is that you only have to update and upgrade the templates, and
all VMs based on those TemplateVMs will get their root filesystems
from the TemplateVMs. So, just make sure that your TemplateBasedVMs
are based on your Fedora 24 TemplateVM(s), and you're good to go.

If, on the other hand, you're referring to Fedora StandaloneVMs, then
the procedure for upgrading those is the same as for TemplateVMs,
except that StandaloneVMs can't be `qvm-trim`ed (AFAIK).

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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
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https://www.qubes-os.org
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raah...@gmail.com

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Dec 21, 2016, 10:56:44 PM12/21/16
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jst updated tks for the heads up.

Chris Laprise

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Dec 22, 2016, 12:56:37 AM12/22/16
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On 12/19/2016 12:33 AM, Andrew David Wong wrote:
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> On 2016-12-18 17:27, iamth...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Is there a guide to update an existing VM to Fedora 24 while
>> preserving it's contents? I upgraded the template per the
>> instructions [1], but can't figure out how to upgrade my existing
>> VMs while saving their data.
>>
>> I can do a fresh Qubes install if necessary but would rather avoid
>> it, if possible.
>>
>> [1] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-23-to-24/
>>
> If you're referring to TemplateBasedVMs such as AppVMs, then there's
> no need to upgrade them. One of the main features of the template
> system is that you only have to update and upgrade the templates, and
> all VMs based on those TemplateVMs will get their root filesystems
> from the TemplateVMs. So, just make sure that your TemplateBasedVMs
> are based on your Fedora 24 TemplateVM(s), and you're good to go.
>
> If, on the other hand, you're referring to Fedora StandaloneVMs, then
> the procedure for upgrading those is the same as for TemplateVMs,
> except that StandaloneVMs can't be `qvm-trim`ed (AFAIK).
>

IIRC, internal 'fstrim' works on standalone root fs because it doesn't
have the COW overlay. So it doesn't need the dom0 tool.

Chris

Andrew David Wong

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Dec 22, 2016, 1:11:57 AM12/22/16
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Thanks. Just reclaimed 125 GB in a three-year-old StandaloneVM. ^_^

For others, the command I used (in the StandaloneVM):

$ sudo fstrim -v -a

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Andrew David Wong

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Dec 22, 2016, 1:23:38 AM12/22/16
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Added to docs:

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-23-to-24/#upgrading-standalonevms

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Chris Laprise

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Dec 22, 2016, 5:12:32 AM12/22/16
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On 12/22/2016 01:11 AM, Andrew David Wong wrote:
>
> Thanks. Just reclaimed 125 GB in a three-year-old StandaloneVM. ^_^
>
> For others, the command I used (in the StandaloneVM):
>
> $ sudo fstrim -v -a
>

You use big drives. :)

The 'discard' option can also be added in /etc/fstab so that root
auto-trims like /rw.

Chris
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