Win7 template serial number activation

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Franz

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Apr 25, 2017, 7:44:38 PM4/25/17
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Hello friends,
I need to install Win7 for the first time after years and wonder if it is possible to activate a template Win7 with the proper serial number and then have child VMs that are already activated and keep so over time.
Best
Fran

Laszlo Zrubecz

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Apr 26, 2017, 2:19:24 AM4/26/17
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Short answer: No, you better create a HVM


Details:
Depends on your licence - but in general the activation are bound to
your hardware - Virtual Machine in case Qubes.

If you activate your template, that will be permanent. And at least you
will be fine with updating windows.

However if you create an AppVM using this template, windows will see
another hardware and asking for an activation. Even if you activate this
instance you will lost that state by rebooting it.

In practice this will not limiting you using template based Windows VMs.
At least technically.

Not sure how long you can run an unactivated windows before start poking
you about this fact.

For a legal solution - ask your windows licencing expert ;)


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Zrubi


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Dominique St-Pierre Boucher

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Apr 26, 2017, 8:51:05 AM4/26/17
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Is there really such thing as a Micro$oft licensing expert? License term change all the time. Refering you to a website that can be change after you've accepted the EULA...

In theory, when you reboot your VM, it should look like a new install so every time you reboot, it should work?!?!?!

I just finished installing a Windows 7 template. I will do some test!

Dominique

Franz

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Apr 26, 2017, 9:00:27 AM4/26/17
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On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Dominique St-Pierre Boucher <domin...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 2:19:24 AM UTC-4, Laszlo Zrubecz wrote:
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> On 04/26/2017 01:44 AM, Franz wrote:
> > Hello friends, I need to install Win7 for the first time after
> > years and wonder if it is possible to activate a template Win7 with
> > the proper serial number and then have child VMs that are already
> > activated and keep so over time.
>
> Short answer: No, you better create a HVM
>
>
> Details:
> Depends on your licence - but in general the activation are bound to
> your hardware - Virtual Machine in case Qubes.
>
> If you activate your template, that will be permanent. And at least you
> will be fine with updating windows.
>
> However if you create an AppVM using this template, windows will see
> another hardware and asking for an activation. Even if you activate this
> instance you will lost that state by rebooting it.
>
> In practice this will not limiting you using template based Windows VMs.
> At least technically.
>
> Not sure how long you can run an unactivated windows before start poking
> you about this fact.
>

Many thanks Zrubi for your very detailed answer. Reading your explanation I remembered that once was able to use a non-Qubes windows installation even if it was not activated. So imagine that the same may be done with template childs, particularly if they are somehow created anew after every reboot. So this may be an acceptable compromise.

> For a legal solution - ask your windows licencing expert ;)

I imagine that even Microsoft representatives do not know the reply
>
>
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Is there really such thing as a Micro$oft licensing expert? License term change all the time. Refering you to a website that can be change after you've accepted the EULA...

In theory, when you reboot your VM, it should look like a new install so every time you reboot, it should work?!?!?!

I just finished installing a Windows 7 template. I will do some test!


Yes, let us know Dominique, thanks

Dominique

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Preliminary test with Windows 7 Pro and a MAK key installed in the template:
- when I start the appvm, it activates with the proper MAK key with no issue
- I think that retail or OEM are different.

Can someone confirm?

Dominique

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