Hijacking Threads

[pru...@riseup.net]

I have been thinking of joining qubes users for long time but am put off
by large number of threads being hijacked.
It is bad etiquette to hijack somebody elses thread - see wikipedia
entry here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etiquette_in_technology
"....avoiding multiposting, cross-posting, off-topic posting, hijacking
a discussion thread, and other techniques .....".

Many times hijacking is used by a minority, as tactic to deflect
attention away from or avoid answering the original
question/comment/query.

Me thinks the qubes user community works better if they control tighter

[799]

Hello

Am Sa., 2. Feb. 2019, 12:31 hat <pru...@riseup.net> geschrieben:

(...)

Many times hijacking is used by a minority, as tactic to deflect
attention away from or avoid answering the original question/comment/query.

Do you have any example where users do so and why should someone do this on purpose?

So far I have seen the Qubes Community as very helpful.

I have learned a lot just because a discussion has evolved from a question someone asked and while providing a solution new ideas come to mind.

(...)

Me thinks the qubes user community works better if they control tighter

I think it's working very well and as we are not robots I like to keep control as low as possible.

I think that strict control will not only put of users but also generate more traffic and lead to stupid discussion what is off topic and not.

Also who should make the decision?

- O.

[Ilpo Järvinen]

On Sat, 2 Feb 2019, pru...@riseup.net wrote:

> I have been thinking of joining qubes users for long time but am put off
> by large number of threads being hijacked.
> It is bad etiquette to hijack somebody elses thread - see wikipedia
> entry here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etiquette_in_technology
> "....avoiding multiposting, cross-posting, off-topic posting, hijacking
> a discussion thread, and other techniques .....".

...That's very selective quoting from you ;-). Perhaps it is a tactic to
deflect attention away from the previous sentence on that page? ;-)

> Many times hijacking is used by a minority, as tactic to deflect
> attention away from or avoid answering the original
> question/comment/query.

That's a quite bold claim. While I could agree that many discussing might
not know an answer (if there even is a question in the thread), stating
that it's being done on those purposes you claim is quite an arrogant
one, IMHO.

Also, often this kind of spinoffs seem occur with discussion rather than
clear questions threads so it seems just naturally way discussion works
(and yes I know, some oppose natural way how natural discussions work
because they want to _dictate how others_ are allowed to participate in
public discussions).

There are plenty of counter-examples to your claim when a thread has
a clearly defined technical question. But if there isn't such a question
made, then it's an open loop really and your "avoid answering" part
doesn't really apply.

> Me thinks the qubes user community works better if they control tighter

It would be nice though if people would change the subject when they
clearly spinoff but I can understand it's often hard to draw a line or
realize that the discussion has drifted off far enough to warrant that
so the problem is likely to stay.

--
i.

[Achim Patzner]

Am Samstag, den 02.02.2019, 03:31 -0800 schrieb pru...@riseup.net:
> I have been thinking of joining qubes users for long time but am put
> off
> by large number of threads being hijacked.
>

Well... If you want a large number of people to change the way they
handle their communication (quite successfully):

What valuable contribution will we lose if we're going on with our
merry lives the way we see fit? What do you have to offer?


Achim