which OCR software, address database and e-mail program run with the Qubes-OS operating system - welche OCR Software, Adressdatenbank sowie E-Mail- Programm mit dem Betriebssystem Qubes-OS laufen?

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Caroline Villinger

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May 24, 2020, 4:23:53 PM5/24/20
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Hello dear nice girls and nice boys,

can you please tell me which OCR software, address database and e-mail program run with the Qubes-OS operating system?

Could you please give me the program names so that I can find out more about them?
That would be really great of you, thank you in advance.

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Hallo liebe nette Mädels und nette Jungs,

könnt Ihr mir bitte sagen, welche OCR Software, Adressdatenbank sowie E-Mail- Programm mit dem Betriebssystem Qubes-OS laufen?

Könnt Ihr mir bitte die Programmnamen geben, so dass ich mich darüber etwas mehr mich informieren kann?
Das wäre echt super spitze von euch, vielen Dank schon im Voraus.


Sven Semmler

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May 24, 2020, 5:09:06 PM5/24/20
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On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 01:23:53PM -0700, Caroline Villinger wrote:
> can you please tell me which OCR software, address database and e-mail
> program run with the Qubes-OS operating system?

Qubes OS is basically the Xen Hypervisor with lots clue code that makes
exchanging information between hosted clients easy and safe. All your
user programs run in so-called qubes which are virtual machines.

By default Qubes OS comes with Fedora, Debian and Whonix but you can
also run other distrubutions (Arch, CentOS, Ubuntu ...) and even
Windows.

So your question really is: which OCR software, address database and
e-mail program run with Fedora, Debian or whatever distribution you
choose to run in your qubes.

The answer to that question is easily researchable using the search
engine of your choice but slightly off-topic here.

> könnt Ihr mir bitte sagen, welche OCR Software, Adressdatenbank sowie
> E-Mail- Programm mit dem Betriebssystem Qubes-OS laufen?

Qubes OS ist im Grunde der Xen Hypervisor mit zusaetzlichem
Bruecken-Code der es erlaubt Information einfach uns sicher zwischen
den Gast-Virtuellen-Machinenen zu bewegen. Diese VMs nennen sich Qubes.

Qubes OS kommt standardmaessig mit Fedora, Debian und Whonix aber Du
kannst auch viele andere Distributionen verwenden wie z.B. Arch, CentOS
oder Ubuntu. Sogar Windows 7 ist unterstuetzt.

Deine Frage ist also wirklich: welche OCR Software, Addressdatenbank und
E-Mail Programm laufen auf Fedora, Debian oder was auch immer Du
entscheidest zu benutzen.

Diese Frage laest sich sehr einfach mit einer Web-Suche beantworten und
ist hier ein bischen Off-Topic.

/Sven

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Caroline Villinger

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May 24, 2020, 6:09:05 PM5/24/20
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Hi,

I don't know what to do now because I want to switch to the Qubes OS operating system soon, that's why I'm asking you!

Address management:
https://www.combit.net/crm-software/adressmanagement-adressverwaltung/

So I'm asking if I should buy this software:
https://www.abbyy.com/de-de/finereader/what-is-ocr/

Because I suspect that you can no longer use them with Qubes OS.
That's why I'm interested in whether there is such software in Qubes OS.
Then I would no longer buy this software because I can no longer use it with Qubes OS.



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Hallo,

Ich weiß nicht, was ich jetzt machen soll, da ich demnächst auf das Qubes OS Betriebssystem umsteigen möchte, aus diesem Grund frage ich dich!

Adressverwaltung:
https://www.combit.net/crm-software/adressmanagement-adressverwaltung/

Ich frage deswegen, ob ich diese Software kaufen soll:
https://www.abbyy.com/de-de/finereader/what-is-ocr/

Denn ich vermute, dass man diese bei Qubes OS nicht mehr einsetzen kann.
Darum interessiert mich, ob es eine solche Software in Qubes OS gibt.
Dann würde ich diese Software nicht mehr kaufen, da ich diese bei Qubes OS nicht mehr einsetzen kann.
 
Erwin

dhorf-hfre...@hashmail.org

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May 24, 2020, 6:22:41 PM5/24/20
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On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 12:08:49AM +0200, Caroline Villinger wrote:
> Because I suspect that you can no longer use them with Qubes OS.
> That's why I'm interested in whether there is such software in Qubes OS.

for these questions, qubes is "just another linux".
if you have a working solution for fedora or debian,
you can most likely use it with qubes.



Sven Semmler

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May 24, 2020, 7:25:25 PM5/24/20
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On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 12:08:49AM +0200, Caroline Villinger wrote:
> I don't know what to do now because I want to switch to the Qubes OS
> operating system soon, that's why I'm asking you!
>
> Address management:
> https://www.combit.net/crm-software/adressmanagement-adressverwaltung/
>
> So I'm asking if I should buy this software:
> https://www.abbyy.com/de-de/finereader/what-is-ocr/
>
> Because I suspect that you can no longer use them with Qubes OS.
> That's why I'm interested in whether there is such software in Qubes OS.
> Then I would no longer buy this software because I can no longer use it
> with Qubes OS.

Both of these are Windows applications. While you can install and run
Windows on Qubes it frankly adds another level of complexity when it
comes to installing it.

A quick search reveals that there are both several OCR solutions as well
as a multitude of CRM software that can run on Linux.

If I understand you correctly you haven't even installed Qubes OS yet.
That can be a major undertaking depending on your hardware. It's great
that you want to use Qubes and people here for sure want to help you get
there.

Maybe it would be a good first step for you to choose a laptop and
install Qubes, then setup some qubes/domains and install the software
you need -- I am pretty sure there will be a FOSS solution for most if
not all your needs.

Based on that expirience you could then make a decision whether it's
right for you. I don't think trying to plan out everything in advance
and then just jumping in on day X will make you happy at all.

So if you are a private person currious about a reasonably secure OS,
by all means dive in but don't expect to be at home and productive
immediately. Don't do this on your main machine you need for work!

If you are a business and this will be mission critical, please look for
and hire someone in your area that is already familiar with Qubes and
can get you over the initial difficulties and train your people. If you
are the "IT guy" for that company see my advice in the previous
paragraph.

/Sven

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haaber

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May 25, 2020, 3:25:08 AM5/25/20
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> Hi,
>
> I don't know what to do now because I want to switch to the Qubes OS
> operating system soon, that's why I'm asking you!
>
> Because I suspect that you can no longer use them with Qubes OS.
> That's why I'm interested in whether there is such software in Qubes OS.

I second the other answers, especially Sven Semmler's. If you have only
"consumer experience" with windows, the change can be quite rough, so
if you have only ONE working machine, then *do not even think of*
installing qubes on that. Use a second machine, get used to it, first.

Before wiping windows, make backups: often user data is spread in
windows machines, over folders & partitions and it is hard to find all
of it. So do a *full* backup. Otherwise, I suggest you write on a piece
of paper "I acknowledge that all my data may be lost", so you can't tell
yourself afterwards you did not know.

If you are worried about OCR, have a look at "tesseract". It is free &
one of the best anyways. Consider a donation, if you are happy with it,
instead of buying the first one you see.


Bernhard

Ulrich Windl

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Jun 5, 2020, 5:59:52 PM6/5/20
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On 5/25/20 9:25 AM, haaber wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I don't know what to do now because I want to switch to the Qubes OS
>> operating system soon, that's why I'm asking you!
>>
>> Because I suspect that you can no longer use them with Qubes OS.
>> That's why I'm interested in whether there is such software in Qubes OS.
>
> I second the other answers, especially Sven Semmler's. If you have only
> "consumer experience" with  windows, the change can be quite rough, so
> if you have only ONE working machine, then  *do not even think of*
> installing qubes on that. Use a second machine, get used to it, first.

Or, if required space is not a big problem, get an external disk or SSD
to install and boot Qubes OS to/from.
(This message is written using Thunderbird inside Debian-10 AppVM in
QubesOS booted from an external disk)

>
> Before wiping windows, make backups: often user data is spread in
> windows machines, over folders & partitions and it is hard to find all
> of it. So do a *full* backup. Otherwise, I suggest you write on a piece
> of paper "I acknowledge that all my data may be lost", so you can't tell
> yourself afterwards you did not know.

I'm still using Windows, too...
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