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Patrick Bouldin

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Aug 16, 2018, 4:47:16 PM8/16/18
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Hi trying to validate 4.0. I downloaded the qubes-master-signing-key.asc and then not able to progress. I did find Joanna's qubes master signing key footprint, but I don't know how to compare or take the next step...

I did this with 3.0 a few years ago but can't remember...

I did check the web site and still don't know.

Thanks.

Andrew David Wong

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Aug 16, 2018, 6:35:33 PM8/16/18
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If you just want to see the fingerprint of the key you downloaded as a
file so that you can compare it to the fingerprint you obtained
through another channel, this is probably the simplest way:

$ gpg2 qubes-master-signing-key.asc
gpg: WARNING: no command supplied. Trying to guess what you mean ...
pub rsa4096 2010-04-01 [SC]
427F11FD0FAA4B080123F01CDDFA1A3E36879494
uid Qubes Master Signing Key

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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org

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Andrew David Wong

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Aug 16, 2018, 6:43:50 PM8/16/18
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On 2018-08-16 17:35, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> On 2018-08-16 15:47, Patrick Bouldin wrote:
>> Hi trying to validate 4.0. I downloaded the
>> qubes-master-signing-key.asc and then not able to progress. I did
>> find Joanna's qubes master signing key footprint, but I don't know
>> how to compare or take the next step...
>
>> I did this with 3.0 a few years ago but can't remember...
>
>> I did check the web site and still don't know.
>
>> Thanks.
>
>
> If you just want to see the fingerprint of the key you downloaded as a
> file so that you can compare it to the fingerprint you obtained
> through another channel, this is probably the simplest way:
>
> $ gpg2 qubes-master-signing-key.asc
> gpg: WARNING: no command supplied. Trying to guess what you mean ...
> pub rsa4096 2010-04-01 [SC]
> 427F11FD0FAA4B080123F01CDDFA1A3E36879494
> uid Qubes Master Signing Key
>

If you're using gpg instead of gpg2, there's the --with-fingerprint
option:

$ gpg --with-fingerprint qubes-master-signing-key.asc
gpg: keyring `/home/user/.gnupg/secring.gpg' created
pub 4096R/36879494 2010-04-01 Qubes Master Signing Key
Key fingerprint = 427F 11FD 0FAA 4B08 0123 F01C DDFA 1A3E 3687 9494

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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org

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Patrick Bouldin

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Aug 17, 2018, 1:58:37 AM8/17/18
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Thanks and a quick question. I did get a final "Good signature", but curious, does that process actually modify the iso at all? Just would like to know because I pulled the iso file from my other pc and it will be easier to build the flash there.

awokd

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Aug 17, 2018, 9:03:08 AM8/17/18
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On Fri, August 17, 2018 5:58 am, Patrick Bouldin wrote:

>>> On 2018-08-16 15:47, Patrick Bouldin wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi trying to validate 4.0. I downloaded the
>>>> qubes-master-signing-key.asc and then not able to progress. I did
>>>> find Joanna's qubes master signing key footprint, but I don't know
>>>> how to compare or take the next step...

>
> Thanks and a quick question. I did get a final "Good signature", but
> curious, does that process actually modify the iso at all? Just would
> like to know because I pulled the iso file from my other pc and it will
> be easier to build the flash there.

Assuming you're still talking about the validation process; no, that would
not modify the iso.


Andrew David Wong

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Aug 18, 2018, 2:15:36 AM8/18/18
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> Thanks and a quick question. I did get a final "Good signature", but curious, does that process actually modify the iso at all? Just would like to know because I pulled the iso file from my other pc and it will be easier to build the flash there.
>

No, checking the signature doesn't modify the ISO at all. However, since
you're using a second machine to perform the signature verification,
it's worth noting that you should, in principle, trust the second
machine at least as much as the first one. If the second machine were
compromised, it could falsely claim that the signature is good even if
the ISO on the first machine were compromised. (Depending on your threat
model, this risk may be acceptably low. Just thought I'd mention it.)

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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org

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