View: Qubes discussion should be migrated away from Google Groups

[epic...@gmail.com]

I imagine the requirement of a Google account deters many from contributing to discussion. All Google accounts require SMS verification of a phone, which is very de-anonymizing, and sort of out of line with the privacy centric nature of Qubes and its users.

[109278409178304917834093]

Hello,

I would appreciate more anonymity (I think there is a french group-chat platform...).

Nice would be some good structure, before you dive inside the big hep of discussions.

Installation
Newbie questions
Bugs
...

This forum makes a perfect job for onboarding into a new community:

http://forums.thebrain.com/

And the innovative discussions about future features are bundled here for the normal non-techie users (and works well too):

https://thebrain.uservoice.com/forums/4597-thebrain-feature-suggestions

I look forward to see some improvements.

Kind Regards

[Andrew]

epic...@gmail.com:

> I imagine the requirement of a Google account deters many from contributing to discussion. All Google accounts require SMS verification of a phone, which is very de-anonymizing, and sort of out of line with the privacy centric nature of Qubes and its users.
>

You are mistaken. A Google account is not required to join the mailing
list. I agree about the invasiveness of SMS-based "authentication", though.

Andrew

[Andrew David Wong]

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On 2016-10-14 09:13, epic...@gmail.com wrote:
> I imagine the requirement of a Google account deters many from contributing to discussion. All Google accounts require SMS verification of a phone, which is very de-anonymizing, and sort of out of line with the privacy centric nature of Qubes and its users.
>

Andrew is correct. A Google account is not required to participate on either of the Qubes mailing lists:

https://www.qubes-os.org/mailing-lists/

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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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[Andrew David Wong]

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On 2016-10-14 10:44, 109278409178304917834093 wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I would appreciate more anonymity (I think there is a french group-chat platform...).
>

It's quite possible to participate on both Qubes mailing lists anonymously (or pseudonymously). I did so for several years under the pseudonym "Axon," and many others still do.

You can read about all the possible ways of interacting with the lists here:

https://www.qubes-os.org/mailing-lists/

> Nice would be some good structure, before you dive inside the big hep of discussions.
>
> Installation
> Newbie questions
> Bugs
> ...
>
> This forum makes a perfect job for onboarding into a new community:
>
> http://forums.thebrain.com/
>
> And the innovative discussions about future features are bundled here for the normal non-techie users (and works well too):
>
> https://thebrain.uservoice.com/forums/4597-thebrain-feature-suggestions
>
> I look forward to see some improvements.
>
> Kind Regards
>

We've previously discussed the possibility of having an official Qubes forum, but we ultimately decided against it:

https://groups.google.com/d/topic/qubes-users/2rqas38ncFA/discussion

Note that this is in no way meant to deter anyone from creating an unofficial Qubes forum.

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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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