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Nicola Schwendener

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Jul 1, 2016, 11:01:04 AM7/1/16
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Hello all,
I wish to move away from my windows pc to qubes os.
in my configuration I still will use windows HVM because I need to run some software (and some office macro) in it. 
I've some questions about storages and cloud accounts. 
I've a crashplan account that I wish to continue using in linux. I saw that there is the crashplan linux version and I wish to know how to create a storagevm that shares via NFS to windows VM and some other VM the content available in the storageVM (should be attached to some external disks and the NAS). 
then there is sugarsync. this software provides a synchronization between different PC I've on different locations. for this software there is a windows only version. what I wish is that this software should run (I guess via wine) in the storageVM in order to not duplicate data between VMs. 
is it feasable? could someone explain me how to create a storage VM and share data to other VMs?
thank you very much
best regards
Nick

Andrew David Wong

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Jul 1, 2016, 9:59:20 PM7/1/16
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Since you say you're new to Qubes, I hope you don't mind me asking:
Have you considered that it might not be optimal to attempt to
reproduce your current setup in Qubes? Many users (myself included)
have found that the functionality offered by Qubes is very different
from that of a conventional OS, so much of what we used to do on
conventional OSes no longer makes sense (or can be accomplished in
better ways).

For example, instead of sharing files via NFS directly between your
CrashPlan VM and your Windows VM (which is possible [1]), you could
consider storing your files in your Windows VM, where you use them,
then sending your Qubes backups [2] to your CrashPlan VM.

This is just one example. It may not apply to your specific situation,
but that's ok. It's mean to illustrate a more general point, which is
that you should be open to considering the new possibilities that
Qubes enables, rather than insisting on replicating old systems (that
were built on the assumption of a single, monolithic OS) in Qubes,
since doing so usually results in compromising the security by
compartmentalization Qubes provides.

[1]: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/qubes-firewall/#tocAnchor-1-1-4
[2]: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/backup-restore/

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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
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https://www.qubes-os.org
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Nicola Schwendener

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Jul 4, 2016, 2:13:35 AM7/4/16
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Hi Andrew,
thank you for your answer and your time. I'm not sure to understand what you say, but doing that means I double the space of the data (redundancy of data) between VM. If I share the data from one VM, the data will be only in one place. 
thank you very much
best regards
Nick

Andrew David Wong

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Jul 4, 2016, 6:28:55 AM7/4/16
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On 2016-07-03 23:13, Nicola Schwendener wrote:
> Hi Andrew, thank you for your answer and your time. I'm not sure
> to understand what you say, but doing that means I double the space
> of the data (redundancy of data) between VM. If I share the data
> from one VM, the data will be only in one place. thank you very
> much best regards Nick
>

Instead of sharing the same data between two VMs, perhaps it would
make more sense to have a single VM? You're unlikely to get many (if
any) isolation benefits by sharing the same data between two VMs like
that. However, if it's merely so that you can run both Linux and
Windows software while accessing the same data (in other words, it's
about compatibility, not security), then perhaps that makes sense. In
that case, I recommend taking a look at the firewall page (link below).


P.S. - Please avoid top posting.
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Franz

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Jul 4, 2016, 11:49:56 AM7/4/16
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On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 7:28 AM, Andrew David Wong <a...@qubes-os.org> wrote:
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On 2016-07-03 23:13, Nicola Schwendener wrote:
> Hi Andrew, thank you for your answer and your time. I'm not sure
> to understand what you say, but doing that means I double the space
> of the data (redundancy of data) between VM. If I share the data
> from one VM, the data will be only in one place. thank you very
> much best regards Nick
>

Instead of sharing the same data between two VMs, perhaps it would
make more sense to have a single VM? You're unlikely to get many (if
any) isolation benefits by sharing the same data between two VMs like
that. However, if it's merely so that you can run both Linux and
Windows software while accessing the same data (in other words, it's
about compatibility, not security), then perhaps that makes sense. In
that case, I recommend taking a look at the firewall page (link below).


P.S. - Please avoid top posting.


I do not see the point of sharing data between different VMs when the reason of having different VMs is exactly the contrary, that is to separate you digital life in strictly separated compartments.

However I do share data with different computers and NAS (via NFS), but it is just one low security VM that does that.
Best
Fran
 
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