Does QubesOs does not source ~/.profile on purpose?

[ma...@lamarciana.com]

Hi,

I recently noticed that neither fedora nor debian virtual machines load `~/.profile` file.

In debian this file exists but it is ignored, while in fedora it doesn't exist. In fedora does exist a file `~/.bash_profile`, which usually means that this one will be loaded by bash instead of `~/.profile`. However, renaming the former does not change anything and the later is not loaded anyway.

I doubt that this behavior is inherited from debian and fedora themselves, so I'm asking if this is expected QubesOs behavior.

Thanks for your help.

[Connor Page]

technically the user "user" is not logged in so the profile files are not sourced. use .bashrc if you want to modify terminal sessions.

[ma...@lamarciana.com]

> technically the user "user" is not logged in so the profile files are not sourced. use .bashrc if you want to modify terminal sessions.

Ok! Thanks for your answer!

[Dave Ewart]

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On Sunday, 18.09.2016 at 11:26 -0700, Connor Page wrote:

> technically the user "user" is not logged in so the profile files are
> not sourced. use .bashrc if you want to modify terminal sessions.

If you want something common to all your terminals, regardless of VM,
you can add a file to /etc/profile.d which includes all your common
content (e.g. aliases)

I use

/etc/profile.d/mystuff.sh

alias h=history ...

[I suppose that, by modifying the template in this manner, you might be
making your system more unique and therefore more identifiable if
there's a compromise. Not an issue for me, but may be a concern for
some.]

Dave.

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[ma...@lamarciana.com]

El lunes, 19 de septiembre de 2016, 10:18:42 (UTC+2), Dave Ewart escribió:

> If you want something common to all your terminals, regardless of VM,
> you can add a file to /etc/profile.d which includes all your common
> content (e.g. aliases)
>
> I use
>
> /etc/profile.d/mystuff.sh
>
> alias h=history ...

Thanks Dave. For me is ok to add what I need in `~/.bashrc`, I was asking just out of curiosity. Anyway, I think not loading home profile files breaks with the principle of least surprise, but surely supporting it would add some ugly hacks in qubes source code.

By the way, can I read somewhere an extension about how `user` user login technically happens (or, better said, not happens)?

Thanks

[Connor Page]

the source code of qvm-run is your best documentation of how applications are run without logging in :)
here is the session that is started in vms. I like the hangman :)
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-gui-agent-linux/blob/master/appvm-scripts/usrbin/qubes-session

[ma...@lamarciana.com]

> the source code of qvm-run is your best documentation of how applications are run without logging in :)
> here is the session that is started in vms. I like the hangman :)
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-gui-agent-linux/blob/master/appvm-scripts/usrbin/qubes-session

Thanks for the link, Connor! Yes, a lot of effort has been put in that hangman :D

Looking at it and seeing how beautifully simply it is kept, wouldn't it make sense to load from there `/etc/profile` file? (I think usually this file is the main responsible of triggering cascade loading of profile files, but correct me if I am wrong)

Thanks