Install to Dell T3610, no Intel graphics, VNC install, NVS 310

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CMaurice

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Feb 22, 2018, 8:39:16 AM2/22/18
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So, having exhausted other options as far as I could tell, followed the instructions for installing over VNC, which went ok.

Legacy boot elected in BIOS for hd and for USB media at install.

But on boot without nomodeset and no i915 entry went quickly to a reboot

Log nomodeset.out attached.

Booting without nomodeset and with modprobe.blacklist=nouveau in place of the i915 entry failed at '[OK] Started Accounts Service' (logs dmesg.txt, Xorg.9.log attached).


I'd be grateful for ideas on how to proceed, even perhaps alternate graphics card suggestions.

I ripped the disk to get the logs off, but Debian isn't allowing me to re-access it for the HCL atm for some reason.

TIA, C

Xorg.9.log
dmesg.txt
dmesg.nomodeset.out

CMaurice

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Feb 22, 2018, 8:57:55 AM2/22/18
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Forgot to mention: Qubes Release 4.0-rc4

awokd

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Feb 22, 2018, 9:24:44 PM2/22/18
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On Thu, February 22, 2018 1:39 pm, CMaurice wrote:
> So, having exhausted other options as far as I could tell, followed the
> instructions for installing over VNC, which went ok.
>
> Legacy boot elected in BIOS for hd and for USB media at install.
>
>
> But on boot without nomodeset and no i915 entry went quickly to a reboot
>
>
> Log nomodeset.out attached.
>
>
> Booting without nomodeset and with modprobe.blacklist=nouveau in place of
> the i915 entry failed at '[OK] Started Accounts Service' (logs dmesg.txt,
> Xorg.9.log attached).
>
>
>
> I'd be grateful for ideas on how to proceed, even perhaps alternate
> graphics card suggestions.

Saw in your other email this is Qubes 4.0rc4. Looks like you've tried all
the basic steps and then some. Does this laptop have a way to use Intel
integrated graphics? If so, check
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/intel-igfx-troubleshooting/ for the command
line option to enable that driver.
Nvidia and Linux generally don't work well together, and I don't have any
of their hardware so don't have much insight there. AMD RX580s and earlier
(maybe newer too but not a lot of data) work pretty well with Qubes, as
does Intel video (usually).

CMaurice

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Feb 23, 2018, 5:28:00 AM2/23/18
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Aye, there's no onboard graphics, there's compatibility with VGA or some sort of pass through for boot and BIOS, not sure.

But anyway, tried 3.2 and that worked fine! So at least I can learn a bit about Qubes before having to re-install for 4 final.

All the best

awokd

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Feb 23, 2018, 5:50:47 AM2/23/18
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On Fri, February 23, 2018 10:28 am, CMaurice wrote:
> Aye, there's no onboard graphics, there's compatibility with VGA or some
> sort of pass through for boot and BIOS, not sure.
>
> But anyway, tried 3.2 and that worked fine! So at least I can learn a bit
> about Qubes before having to re-install for 4 final.

Glad you got it running at least. I realized after I sent my last email
your Dell probably isn't a laptop or you wouldn't be asking about video
cards!

If you are going shopping for one, check out the following in case you
ever want to try pass-through some day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IOMMU-supporting_hardware#AMD
http://www.overclock.net/t/1307834/xen-vga-passthrough-compatible-graphics-adapters
https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_VGA_Passthrough_Tested_Adapters#ATI.2FAMD_display_adapters


CMaurice

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Feb 24, 2018, 12:55:28 PM2/24/18
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Interesting links, thanks. I'm more for blockchain securing that gaming tho.

C.

Tai...@gmx.com

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Feb 25, 2018, 2:44:23 AM2/25/18
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On 02/24/2018 12:55 PM, CMaurice wrote:

> Interesting links, thanks. I'm more for blockchain securing that gaming tho.

If you have lots of virtual money on the line I highly recommend a Talos
2 - you can even buy one in bitcoin - OpenPOWER9 is the most secure high
performance computing architecture and the T2 is the most secure
motherboard.

There are a lot of imitators out there (ex: purism) but what Raptor and
IBM are doing for the hardware freedom movement is legitimate.
As always I recommend either a libre hardware/firmware TALOS 2
(OpenPOWER9, maximum security, features, performance and freedom) or a
libre firmware KGPE-D16/KCMA-D8 (slow vs the T2 - I use these for x86-64
VM gaming) for video passthrough.

I have bought a variety of closed source firmware devices before that
claimed to but didn't actually support IOMMU-GFX, and by getting one of
these you also get a BMC platform that is actually receiving security
updates. (the D8/D16 have the facebook OpenBMC, whereas the T2 has the
IBM OpenBMC which contains more features)
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