Qubes Manager is coming back in Qubes 4.0-rc4!

[Andrew David Wong]

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The Qubes VM Manager will be returning in Qubes 4.0-rc4, which is
scheduled for release next week. The returning Qubes Manager will be
slightly different from the 3.2 version. Specifically, it will not
duplicate functionality that is already provided by the new 4.0
widgets. Specific examples include attaching and detaching block
devices, attaching and detaching the microphone, and VM CPU usage.

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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org

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[Ted Brenner]

Woohoo! Thanks all!

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[joev...@gmail.com]

Great news. Thank you.

I would prefer a fully functional Qubes Manager since a widget that requires mouse click or hover is a pain in the butt to keep as a running dashboard.
That is what I like about the 3.2 version... that I can keep it in one of my extra monitors. Seeing CPU spikes without having to drill down for it is convenient.

Thanks again.

[joev...@gmail.com]

P.S.

Can you please update https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/releases/4.0/schedule/

[[799]]

Andrew David Wong wrote: 

> Specifically, it will not duplicate functionality
> that is already provided by the new 4.0 
> widgets. Specific examples include attaching
> and detaching block devices, attaching and
> detaching the microphone, and VM CPU
> usage. 

Great news that the Qubes Manager will come back. Linux has always be about free choice and as Qubes Manager will be an additional way to interact with Qubes the users who don't want, don't have to use it.

I am also voting for a Qubes Manager which has nearly full functionally, as I don't like to use different places to do stuff.
Maybe this can also be configured, so that you have "lean mode" and an "full mode" or something similar. As mentioned: choice is good.

The current user interface results in much more "mouse meters" compared to Qubes 3.2

Thanks to the Qubes Team that they're listening to the user base.

[799]

[Nik H]

Great news, thank you!

[Roy Bernat]

On Monday, 15 January 2018 03:18:27 UTC+2, Nik H wrote:
> Great news, thank you!

regarding update to rc4 from rc3 ? should we install again ?

R

[Yuraeitha]

From what I gather, this info whether to re-install or just update, will be available again in the Qubes 4 RC-X news articles from the Qubes team. It might be buried somewhere in a bit larger text like the last few times, so be careful to read it through carefully. It should be posted right before the RC-4 download is available according to the default schedule found on Qubes's GitHub when releasing new RC's.

[Yuraeitha]

Awesome that you guys brought the Qubes Manager back. Besides being useful, it's even become a sort of trade-mark for Qubes, or even a mascot if you may. It's one of the major a visible ways to tell it's a Qubes system by look alone. Also I definitely agree that it's nice to be able to keep track of CPU/Ram more easily, or pending updates from the various different repositories, which can be a big mess when having many templates. So all in all, love that you guys brought it back.

I'm fully aware the Qubes Manager isn't officially released yet until Qubes RC-4, so things might change with updates etc. but below are some minor concerns.

* It resets windows size each time you close it down and open it again. It's nice we can change its size now, but it won't stick to the size we give it between closing it and opening it? It's in particular nice to remember windows size if you dedicate it to a specific screen, or a specific place on a screen, or if you want to key-bind it to appear and disappear when needed.

* Another minor issue, which is much less of an issue, is dead links in the Qube menu, for Logs and Attach block devices. Since you specifically announced you won't duplicate tasks that the widget is already handling, perhaps it might be best to remove these two dead links, which are also handled by the Qubes widget? No biggie, just something minor I noticed.

Other than that, it's really nice to have again, and above issues really are minor issues, really. Although it'd sweet if it remembered the window size, but it's only like the dot above the i, a minor detail before perfection.

[Ronnie K]

Thanks a lot :)))