DebianTemplate for DVM with additional software is flagging an update(despite already updated)? 3.2

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vel...@tutamail.com

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Jan 17, 2018, 10:33:33 AM1/17/18
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Running Qubes 3.2....the Debian Template I created for printing is showing an update is needed in my GUI interface (Green arrow pointing down). I updated this template and other Debian templates but my printer template keeps showing an update is needed?

*Tried an update again from GUI-Terminal said nothing needed
*Restarted computer
*Did a manual update directly from terminal using: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

Is there another option I can try before rebuilding the template?

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donoban

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Jan 17, 2018, 4:50:17 PM1/17/18
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I had this problem with a Debian template with backports enabled. I am
not sure about the source of the problem but I don't think you will fix
it rebuilding the template.

One day I discovered that running apt-get update/upgrade on the template
was reporting different results if it has internet available. With
internet it was up to date, without it it had tons of packages for
upgrade. Finally I checked some packages were at right version and I
also was receiving updates when debian-security announced them so I
stopped worrying about it.

Probably some of my offline AppVMs was reporting an update was needed
erroneously.

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@LeeteqXV (Twitter & Mastodon.technology)

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Feb 19, 2018, 5:24:14 AM2/19/18
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I am considering Qubes 4.x for an ASUS ROG GL552VW-DM141 laptop with
NVIDIA graphics and built-in/onboard "fallback" Intel graphics.

In order to get for example Ubuntu Mate installed onto it, to get past
the installer incompatibilities with NVidia, it is necessary to edit the
boot menu and add "nouveau.modeset=0" to the startup command. Then
Ubuntu boots fine.

Can this be done with Qubes 4.x?
How/where to affect such boot commands; can that be done from the boot
media/USB stick directly, as we do with other Linux live USB sticks?

Thanks,

@LeeteqXV (Twitter & Mastodon.technology)

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Feb 19, 2018, 6:02:02 AM2/19/18
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Yuraeitha

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Feb 19, 2018, 7:55:38 AM2/19/18
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@LeeteqXV
It's probably best you start a new thread, this thread is about a whole different issue altogether.

But since this is an old thread, I'll briefly answer you.
This what you seek, directing a GPU directly into an AppVM, or any other work arounds, can currently be done in Qubes 3.2. nor Qubes 4.0.

However, it is planned for Qubes 4.1, which may reach release. Just don't get hyped yet, things can change, 4.0. is barely finished and 4.1. is currently only on the drawing board. Look here for quick information about 4.1. https://github.com/rootkovska/qubes-roadmap you can see the GTX passthrough ability on the map.

Also, you don't really need Ubuntu for these kind of things, it can easily be fixed up in both Debian and Fedora. You can use Intel graphics just fine for 4k videos, you don't need nvidia for stuff like that on modern motherboard/CPU systems. You may need powerful graphic cards for gaming and high end graphics, but this too isn't possible, at least before Qubes 4.1. anyway. If you didn't need these in Qubes 4, then it will likely make no difference to you to use Intel graphics. Also Qubes dom0 frequently has nvidia graphic issues and may require a full properitary driver download/install, with a manual install.

To get a bit back on-topic, it saves you whole lot of hassle if you get adjusted to not be depending too much on Ubuntu and others that give everything on a silverplate. Although DVM protected content is never stable regardless of the Linux distribution, unless you download the Google Chrome browser from Google (Not Chromium), which usually always have working DVM videos in any Linux. Issue being, that Firefox and others, often loose the ability to play the video, especially Microsoft silverlight videos, which the work-arounds frequently break.

Essentially you can play the codecs fine, HTML5 is for example extremely easy to install in Fedora through enabling the RPMFusion repositories, which can easily be done in Qubes fedora template (best make a copy first). But it does not include HTML5-DVM.

Essentially, DVM is so messed up, you may just want to download the Google Browser specifically for these videos, and just be done with the crapware copyright protectors throw at us. It's not like they care about Linux anyway, so why would changing to Ubuntu make any difference? Ubuntu is just as unstable in this regard of protected content due to lack of developer support of protected contents.

However, Fedora+Firefox+RPMFusionRepositories+ffmpeg+Firefox's own DVM = Netflix and all HTML5 videos on youtube, and similar modern websites, works smoothly without issues.

Try not to get too dependent on a system, really it makes little difference if you adjust yourself to it.

Also install Qubes with LegacyBIOS/Grub and press the E key during the Grub menu, then add after or before "quiet" on the module code-line. Or just temporarily disable nvidia in your UEFI, works too, more or less does the same as nouveau.modeset=0.

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