How to get on the internet from within a Debian 10.3 HVM, when Debian says that it is connected to the network, but can't get on the internet by using Firefox from within the Debian HVM ?

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Mar 14, 2020, 4:06:02 PM3/14/20
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How to get on the internet from within a Debian 10.3 HVM, when Debian says that it is connected to the network, but can't get on the internet by using Firefox from within the Debian HVM ?

I have created the Debian HVM by first downloading the DVD 1 file from here: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/ to a VM. Then create a new HVM by using the GUI and boot the ISO-file from another VM. And the installation run successful (without internet connection) according to the installer. After the installation I logged in to Debian 10.3, and then set up the network by writing the correct IP, netmask and gateway address according to the same HVM's "Qube Settings". And I have pressed "On" in the menu bar so that Debian says that it is connected to the cable network. But I still can't get on the internet. For example if I open Firefox, and write "test" in the html field, Firefox tell me that it can't connect to the server. And it is from the same pc I'm making this thread, so Qubes OS is connected to the internet.

I should probably also mention that I haven't installed any Qubes-tools yet. In case I should try that, please write which packages I shall install and where I can find them.

So I would like some suggestions on what I shall do to get on the internet by using Firefox from within the Debian HVM ?

Frank

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Mar 15, 2020, 2:34:40 AM3/15/20
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How to get on the internet from within a Debian 10.3 HVM, when Debian says that it is connected to the network, but can't get on the internet by using Firefox from within the Debian HVM ?

I have created the Debian HVM by first downloading the DVD 1 file from here: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/ to a VM. Then create a new HVM by using the GUI and boot the ISO-file from another VM.

Is there a specific reason why you didn’t use the Debian template Qubes provides already? You can create a HVM from the Debian template and be all set...

And the installation run successful (without internet connection) according to the installer. After the installation I logged in to Debian 10.3, and then set up the network by writing the correct IP, netmask and gateway address according to the same HVM's "Qube Settings". And I have pressed "On" in the menu bar so that Debian says that it is connected to the cable network. But I still can't get on the internet. For example if I open Firefox, and write "test" in the html field, Firefox tell me that it can't connect to the server. And it is from the same pc I'm making this thread, so Qubes OS is connected to the internet.

I should probably also mention that I haven't installed any Qubes-tools yet. In case I should try that, please write which packages I shall install and where I can find them.

So I would like some suggestions on what I shall do to get on the internet by using Firefox from within the Debian HVM ?

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Mar 15, 2020, 3:42:33 AM3/15/20
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I installed Debian 10.3 in this way, because I would like to get a GUI of the Debian OS with it's desktop, menus, etc. so that I could install programs in Debian by using a GUI and also easier use its programs.

I read about instilling Debian as a OS in Qubes here: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/debian/ . But got the impression that it was without a Debian desktop, menus, etc. as it isn't mentioned on the page. But I may have got a wrong impression.

I have also looked here: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/standalone-and-hvm/ . But I didn't find anything about this either.

Therefore I tried to install Debian 10.3 in a HVM the same way other Linux OS' would have to be installed in Qubes OS.

If I can install Debian 10.3 as a minimal OS with a desktop, menus, etc. and get it on the internet from within the Debian HVM by installing Debian OS in another way, I would certainly try it. Can I do that just by following the guide on this page: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/debian/ or shall I also do some other things and if so what ?

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Mar 15, 2020, 3:45:18 AM3/15/20
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"instilling" = installing

Sorry.

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Mar 17, 2020, 6:22:45 AM3/17/20
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I should probably also mention that I have no problems whatsoever in getting on the internet from within a Windows 10 HVM or a Linux Mint HVM.

So I can't understand why I can't get on the internet from within a Debian 10.3 HVM the same way as I got connected to the internet in the Linux Mint HVM.

So I still need some suggestions on what I shall do to get on the internet by using Firefox from within the Debian 10.3 GUI HVM ?


Frank

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Mar 17, 2020, 6:50:48 AM3/17/20
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Have you set the network configuration in your Debian HVM to „manual“ (as opposed to „dhcp“) and put the right static IP address, gateway address to what you see in the qubes‘ settings?

And use 255.255.255.0 as the netmask and not the 255.255.255.255 shown in the settings!

That should enable networking.

If you don‘t see any IP address in the settings, make sure the qube has a net-vm set (i.e. sys-firewall) on the first tab in the settings.

Regards, Frank

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Mar 17, 2020, 7:09:31 AM3/17/20
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Thanks, Frank.

I have changed the gateway-address from 255.255.255.255 to 255.255.255.0, and i still can't use the Firefox browser inside the Debian HVM to get on the internet.

I then tried to delete the 9.9.9.9 DNS address and switch the DNS to "Automatic". But that didn't work either...

Frank have you tried to install the Debian 10.3 like I did and were you able to get on the internet by using the Firefox browser ? - I ask, only to rule things out. Because if so, then it has to be something with my settings. And if not, it still might be the connection between Qubes OS and Debian that doesn't work properly.


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Mar 17, 2020, 7:45:56 AM3/17/20
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I have also compared the network settings in the Debian HVM with the Linux Mint HVM, and they look precisely the same. Only the IP-address is different.
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