upgraded debian 8 to 9 on qubes 3.2 but no file manager now.

[cooloutac]

So I upgraded debian-8 to debian-9 on qubes 3.2 But for some reason it has no file manager now. Even if installing one from terminal and then syncing appmenus from dom0. no file manager appears in list.

Is there a qubes debian 9 template to install to qubes 3.2?

Thanks, Rich.

[Unman]

There is a debian-9 template, but you have the choice of which file manager
you want installed. Just apt-get install whatever you want.

[cooloutac]

according to qubes-os website debian-9 template is only available for qubes 4.0?

I did try to install nautilus. then did qvm-sync-appmenus but still no file manager in the app list to add.

[awokd]

On Thu, March 15, 2018 7:49 pm, cooloutac wrote:
> On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 1:41:18 PM UTC-4, Unman wrote:
>

>> There is a debian-9 template, but you have the choice of which file
>> manager you want installed. Just apt-get install whatever you want.
>
> according to qubes-os website debian-9 template is only available for
> qubes 4.0?

That's just the default one, but it's available for R3.2 as well.

> I did try to install nautilus. then did qvm-sync-appmenus but still no
> file manager in the app list to add.

Check here (pending doc. update, not approved)
https://github.com/awokd/qubes-doc/blob/patch-4/common-tasks/managing-appvm-shortcuts.md#what-if-my-application-has-not-been-automatically-included-in-the-list-of-available-apps

[Unman]

You're right - there isnt a pre-built Debian-9 for 3.2.(I'm confused
because I roll my own.)
But you can build your own or upgrade an existing.
I'm not quite clear on why file manager doesn't appear in the app list
for you, because I installed it myself following your email and it just
worked.
Let me test again, with a clean debian-8 upgrade, and see if I can
reproduce. (Just to check - do you have an updated dom0 and are you
using Testing repos in dom0?)

[Unman]

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 07:58:34PM -0000, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:
> On Thu, March 15, 2018 7:49 pm, cooloutac wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 1:41:18 PM UTC-4, Unman wrote:
> >
>
> >> There is a debian-9 template, but you have the choice of which file
> >> manager you want installed. Just apt-get install whatever you want.
> >
> > according to qubes-os website debian-9 template is only available for
> > qubes 4.0?
>
> That's just the default one, but it's available for R3.2 as well.

Not from the Qubes repository.

>
> > I did try to install nautilus. then did qvm-sync-appmenus but still no
> > file manager in the app list to add.
>
> Check here (pending doc. update, not approved)
> https://github.com/awokd/qubes-doc/blob/patch-4/common-tasks/managing-appvm-shortcuts.md#what-if-my-application-has-not-been-automatically-included-in-the-list-of-available-apps
>

The interesting question is why it works for some people and not for OP.

[awokd]

On Thu, March 15, 2018 8:35 pm, Unman wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 07:58:34PM -0000, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:
>
>> On Thu, March 15, 2018 7:49 pm, cooloutac wrote:
>>

>>> according to qubes-os website debian-9 template is only available for
>>> qubes 4.0?
>>
>> That's just the default one, but it's available for R3.2 as well.
>>
>
> Not from the Qubes repository.

Ever? Could swear I installed it before!

[Unman]

So I've just started from a clean Debian-8, updated, dist-upgraded to
Debian-9 and reinstalled nautilus. Created New qube and the "Files" item
is there.
So that all seems fine.
Have you checked that the install went OK and have you tried the manual
method for adding menu items?
What are you running in dom0 - is that up to date? Running from Testing
repositories?

[cooloutac]

I still can't get a file manager to show up in the appmenu, even after installing nautilus and confirming it loads from the template and doing a qvm-sync-appmenus.

I also realized that if I have debian-9 as template for sys-firewall I can't update dom0. It says it is missing the dom0 update folder.

[Unman]

The second is a known issue which I thought had been fixed.
On the first you havent answered my questions.

[cooloutac]

I liked to use debian as my sys-firewall guess I'll just use fedora 26.

Seems files is working now in debian-9 apps. not sure what changed, maybe after a reboot of the system. maybe after changing sys-firewall template. no idea. maybe after shutting down template a couple times. but Its in the list now and loads.

I still have that bug though where I sometimes have to click files more then once for it to load. always had that bug though, o big deal.

Thinking about installing qubes 4.0 rc5 but still hesitant.