Updating Linux and Whonix

[E. Foster]

Greetings,

I finally got latest version of Qubes installed.  thanks for the suggestions. 

Yet, I ran through a few updates for Debian, Dom() and Whonix however the version displayed did not change.  From reading the documentation,  The updater should have updated to Whonix 16, and Fedora 35 or 36 as indicated in the version table.  It didn't.  What I am trying to figure out were the updates needed or suggested, because, I noticed a setting for whonix (safest) was downgraded (to standard).   In essence, I'd like to know how to either remove the updates/revert or upgrade to the versions suggested in the table?  Is there also a way to set the ethernet/wifi to off, so that I must physically turn it on before any connections take place.  I suppose the default is ON, however I was just asking.

Also, I've tried to set up a VM for Zoom with Whonix but the settings manager for the VM displays a caution symbol.  I didn't know you couldn't use Whonix for the connection.  The settings manager does allow sys-firewall.  Furthermore, I am having difficulty installing Zoom on Fedora 30.  Would any of you have some suggestions as to how to build a Zoom VM or a work around for installing the rpm file.  My background is Windows and somehow Fedora is a slight leap of faith.  

Thanks, 

[dhorf-hfre...@hashmail.org]

On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 11:03:19AM -0700, E. Foster wrote:
> I finally got latest version of Qubes installed. thanks for the

what version is that?

> version displayed did not change. From reading the documentation, The
> updater should have updated to Whonix 16, and Fedora 35 or 36 as indicated

what documentation is that?
there is no "fedora 35 or 36" yet.
those are versions that will be released in 1-2 years.

> Fedora 30. Would any of you have some suggestions as to how to build a

fedora 30 is unsupported.
you should install fedora 31 or 32 first.
https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2020/04/30/fedora-31-template-available/

[E. Foster]

Greetings,

Thanks for responding, 

Yes you are correct.  I made a visual mistake.  I read through the documentation a week or so ago and those were the version numbers I retained.  To answer your question:  Install 4.0.3, Debian 10, Fedora30, Whonix 15. 

However, as you said, I should upgrade to Fedora 31.  Or my system should have upgraded it to Fedora 31.  Other news flash, I did find the error in parameters for setting up whonix connections without the signal.  I had to match the templates between advanced and basic in the settings for the VM.

None the less, I am still a little worried about what I did during the upgrade process.  Because, I can't seem to have any peripheral programs such libre office or other in an accessible or visible manner.  ( Currently working on the installs).   There are a lot of programs available for quick install but once you believe you installed them.  I can't find them in any drop down menu.  Perhaps, I did something wrong. 

However, I am still working on the Zoom install, hopefully, I can figure out how to upgrade to fedora 31, Is there a means to check for all internet connections such as Netstat, so I can identify the IPs and block all the others? 

Thanks so much for your suggestions, 

[m...@militant.dk]

fredag den 26. juni 2020 kl. 17.06.22 UTC+2 skrev E. Foster:

None the less, I am still a little worried about what I did during the upgrade process.  Because, I can't seem to have any peripheral programs such libre office or other in an accessible or visible manner.  ( Currently working on the installs).   There are a lot of programs available for quick install but once you believe you installed them.  I can't find them in any drop down menu.  Perhaps, I did something wrong. 

Whatever programs you need in your AppVM's, needs to be installed in your template VM's, the AppVM's are based on. Then you have to "refresh" the menu, becuase you might not want everything in the menu. That is mentioned here:https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/managing-appvm-shortcuts/

However, I am still working on the Zoom install, hopefully, I can figure out how to upgrade to fedora 31, ---snip

This might work if you change 30 with 31: https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2019/05/30/fedora-30-template-available/ or follow the guide mentioned earlier:

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 6:12:03 PM UTC, dhorf-hfr...@hashmail.org wrote:

fedora 30 is unsupported.
you should install fedora 31 or 32 first.
https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2020/04/30/fedora-31-template-available/

Sincerely

Max

[E. Foster]

Thanks for the reply,

I finally started working on the appVMs with the docs in hand.  I've had to restart my apps designs from the start after reading some of the docs.  You're right, there a lot of apps.  I am now trying to find the libre office ones to install in a template hopefully I can get in done in the next few days.  As a matter of fact, I found this passage. 

in disposablevm-customization.md qvm-prefs:

You can set an appVM as a template for a disposableVM. 

qvm-prefs fedora-26-dvm template_for_dispvms True

However, when I tried it I would get the following returned messages:

qvm-prefs: error: no such property: 'template_for_dispVM'

qvm-prefs: error: no such property: 'template_for_dispms'

However the exact syntax in the in the Docs show template_for_dispms.  Where for is in italics. 

How would you activate italics in Dom0 to write the exact syntax?  Or is there another script that will accomplish the feat? 

thanks, 

[awokd]

E. Foster:

> Thanks for the reply,
>
> I finally started working on the appVMs with the docs in hand. I've had to
> restart my apps designs from the start after reading some of the docs.
> You're right, there a lot of apps. I am now trying to find the libre
> office ones to install in a template hopefully I can get in done in the
> next few days. As a matter of fact, I found this passage.
>
> in disposablevm-customization.md qvm-prefs:
>
>
> You can set an appVM as a template for a disposableVM.
>

> *qvm-prefs fedora-26-dvm template_**for_**dispvms True*

>
> However, when I tried it I would get the following returned messages:
>

> *qvm-prefs: error: no such property: 'template_for_dispVM'*
>
> *qvm-prefs: error: no such property: 'template_for_dispms'*
>
>
> However the exact syntax in the in the Docs show *template_**for_**dispms*.

>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.qubes-os.org%2Fnews%2F2020%2F04%2F30%2Ffedora-31-template-available%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHZ6LaMGXt1azpY9YUA07-kRybgng>
>>>
>>
>> Sincerely
>> Max
>>
>
Which document are you referring to? You shouldn't have random *'s in
the command or parameters. Try "qvm-prefs fedora-26-dvm" (without
quotes) to get a list of valid parameters and what they're currently set to.

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