How to search, reinstall or remove qubes-templates installed via rpm?
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J. Eppler
Dec 19, 2016, 10:31:48 AM12/19/16
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Hello,
1. How can I search for qubes-templates in dom0 rpm repository? The qubes-dom0-update tool excludes all templates from a search.
2. How can I reinstall qubes-templates which are installed from the dom0 rpm repo?
3. How can I remove qubes-templates which are installed from the dom0 rpm repo?
regards
J. Eppler
Andrew David Wong
Dec 19, 2016, 2:32:01 PM12/19/16
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On 2016-12-19 07:31, J. Eppler wrote:
> Hello,
>
> 1. How can I search for qubes-templates in dom0 rpm repository? The qubes-dom0-update tool excludes all templates from a search.
>
$ sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=search qubes-template
This will pass through the terminal output from the UpdateVM, so even
though templates are excluded in the dom0 dnf command, you'll still get
the search results (in red text by default).
Remember that you won't see community templates unless you enable their repo:
$ sudo qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-templates-community --action=search qubes-template
> 2. How can I reinstall qubes-templates which are installed from the dom0 rpm repo?
>
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/reinstall-template/
> 3. How can I remove qubes-templates which are installed from the dom0 rpm repo?
>
Make sure no TemplateBasedVMs are based on the template to be removed.
Then, in dom0:
$ sudo dnf remove <template-package-name>
- --
Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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On 2016-12-19 07:31, J. Eppler wrote:
> Hello,
>
> 1. How can I search for qubes-templates in dom0 rpm repository? The qubes-dom0-update tool excludes all templates from a search.
>
This will pass through the terminal output from the UpdateVM, so even
though templates are excluded in the dom0 dnf command, you'll still get
the search results (in red text by default).
Remember that you won't see community templates unless you enable their repo:
$ sudo qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-templates-community --action=search qubes-template
> 2. How can I reinstall qubes-templates which are installed from the dom0 rpm repo?
>
> 3. How can I remove qubes-templates which are installed from the dom0 rpm repo?
>
Then, in dom0:
$ sudo dnf remove <template-package-name>
- --
Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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Chris Laprise
Dec 19, 2016, 6:47:09 PM12/19/16
to Andrew David Wong, J. Eppler, qubes-users
On 12/19/2016 02:31 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote:
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> On 2016-12-19 07:31, J. Eppler wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> 1. How can I search for qubes-templates in dom0 rpm repository? The qubes-dom0-update tool excludes all templates from a search.
>>
> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=search qubes-template
>
> This will pass through the terminal output from the UpdateVM, so even
> though templates are excluded in the dom0 dnf command, you'll still get
> the search results (in red text by default).
>
> Remember that you won't see community templates unless you enable their repo:
>
> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-templates-community --action=search qubes-template
>
>> 2. How can I reinstall qubes-templates which are installed from the dom0 rpm repo?
>>
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/reinstall-template/
>
Note, the "action=reinstall" option will only re-install the same
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> On 2016-12-19 07:31, J. Eppler wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> 1. How can I search for qubes-templates in dom0 rpm repository? The qubes-dom0-update tool excludes all templates from a search.
>>
> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=search qubes-template
>
> This will pass through the terminal output from the UpdateVM, so even
> though templates are excluded in the dom0 dnf command, you'll still get
> the search results (in red text by default).
>
> Remember that you won't see community templates unless you enable their repo:
>
> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-templates-community --action=search qubes-template
>
>> 2. How can I reinstall qubes-templates which are installed from the dom0 rpm repo?
>>
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/reinstall-template/
>
version of the template, not upgrade it. To upgrade a template (say, to
fix a bug in the Debian template's package manager), you need to follow
the older instructions in the doc.
Alternately, you can get around this limitation and allow an in-place
template upgrade if you're comfortable editing system shell scripts:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2520#issuecomment-268066923
Chris
J. Eppler
Dec 22, 2016, 10:33:55 AM12/22/16
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> > 1. How can I search for qubes-templates in dom0 rpm repository? The qubes-dom0-update tool excludes all templates from a search.
> >
>
> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=search qubes-template
>
> This will pass through the terminal output from the UpdateVM, so even
> though templates are excluded in the dom0 dnf command, you'll still get
> the search results (in red text by default).
>
> Remember that you won't see community templates unless you enable their repo:
>
> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-templates-community --action=search qubes-template
Reading red text is not a really good solution from an usability perspective. What are the reasons to exclude templates from a search in the first place?
> > 3. How can I remove qubes-templates which are installed from the dom0 rpm repo?
> >
>
> Make sure no TemplateBasedVMs are based on the template to be removed.
> Then, in dom0:
>
> $ sudo dnf remove <template-package-name>
Thanks, that is a greate solution.
Andrew David Wong
Dec 23, 2016, 2:56:25 AM12/23/16
to J. Eppler, qubes-users, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
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On 2016-12-22 07:33, J. Eppler wrote:
>
>>> 1. How can I search for qubes-templates in dom0 rpm repository? The qubes-dom0-update tool excludes all templates from a search.
>>>
>>
>> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=search qubes-template
>>
>> This will pass through the terminal output from the UpdateVM, so even
>> though templates are excluded in the dom0 dnf command, you'll still get
>> the search results (in red text by default).
>>
>> Remember that you won't see community templates unless you enable their repo:
>>
>> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-templates-community --action=search qubes-template
>
> Reading red text is not a really good solution from an usability perspective. What are the reasons to exclude templates from a search in the first place?
>
Actually, after further testing, I've found that this doesn't work. Even with `--enablerepo=qubes-templates-community`, I'm only getting the Fedora and Arch templates in search results (not Whonix or Debian). Without `--enablerepo=qubes-templates-community`, I only get the Fedora templates in the search results. So, this method doesn't work. Moreover, the results are inconsistent, since Debian is in the official templates-itl repo, whereas Arch is in the templates-community repo.
>
>>> 1. How can I search for qubes-templates in dom0 rpm repository? The qubes-dom0-update tool excludes all templates from a search.
>>>
>>
>> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=search qubes-template
>>
>> This will pass through the terminal output from the UpdateVM, so even
>> though templates are excluded in the dom0 dnf command, you'll still get
>> the search results (in red text by default).
>>
>> Remember that you won't see community templates unless you enable their repo:
>>
>> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-templates-community --action=search qubes-template
>
> Reading red text is not a really good solution from an usability perspective. What are the reasons to exclude templates from a search in the first place?
>
Marek, any idea what's going on here?
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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Dec 23, 2016, 5:49:28 AM12/23/16
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On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 11:56:13PM -0800, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> On 2016-12-22 07:33, J. Eppler wrote:
> >
> >>> 1. How can I search for qubes-templates in dom0 rpm repository? The qubes-dom0-update tool excludes all templates from a search.
> >>>
> >>
> >> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=search qubes-template
> >>
> >> This will pass through the terminal output from the UpdateVM, so even
> >> though templates are excluded in the dom0 dnf command, you'll still get
> >> the search results (in red text by default).
> >>
> >> Remember that you won't see community templates unless you enable their repo:
> >>
> >> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-templates-community --action=search qubes-template
> >
> > Reading red text is not a really good solution from an usability perspective. What are the reasons to exclude templates from a search in the first place?
> >
>
> Actually, after further testing, I've found that this doesn't work. Even with `--enablerepo=qubes-templates-community`, I'm only getting the Fedora and Arch templates in search results (not Whonix or Debian). Without `--enablerepo=qubes-templates-community`, I only get the Fedora templates in the search results. So, this method doesn't work. Moreover, the results are inconsistent, since Debian is in the official templates-itl repo, whereas Arch is in the templates-community repo.
>
> Marek, any idea what's going on here?
Already installed templates are excluded from every qubes-dom0-update
operation. Mostly to not accidentally upgrade such package - which would
override all the changes made inside (including installed packages,
applied updates etc). Currently the only exception is "reinstall"
action, with one specific template given as an argument. There is a plan
to extend this to some other actions:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2527
But in general, we need some better mechanism to distribute templates,
this is one of the reasons...
- --
Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 11:56:13PM -0800, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> On 2016-12-22 07:33, J. Eppler wrote:
> >
> >>> 1. How can I search for qubes-templates in dom0 rpm repository? The qubes-dom0-update tool excludes all templates from a search.
> >>>
> >>
> >> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=search qubes-template
> >>
> >> This will pass through the terminal output from the UpdateVM, so even
> >> though templates are excluded in the dom0 dnf command, you'll still get
> >> the search results (in red text by default).
> >>
> >> Remember that you won't see community templates unless you enable their repo:
> >>
> >> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-templates-community --action=search qubes-template
> >
> > Reading red text is not a really good solution from an usability perspective. What are the reasons to exclude templates from a search in the first place?
> >
>
> Actually, after further testing, I've found that this doesn't work. Even with `--enablerepo=qubes-templates-community`, I'm only getting the Fedora and Arch templates in search results (not Whonix or Debian). Without `--enablerepo=qubes-templates-community`, I only get the Fedora templates in the search results. So, this method doesn't work. Moreover, the results are inconsistent, since Debian is in the official templates-itl repo, whereas Arch is in the templates-community repo.
>
> Marek, any idea what's going on here?
operation. Mostly to not accidentally upgrade such package - which would
override all the changes made inside (including installed packages,
applied updates etc). Currently the only exception is "reinstall"
action, with one specific template given as an argument. There is a plan
to extend this to some other actions:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2527
But in general, we need some better mechanism to distribute templates,
this is one of the reasons...
- --
Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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Andrew David Wong
Dec 23, 2016, 7:52:46 AM12/23/16
to Marek Marczykowski-Górecki, J. Eppler, qubes-users
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On 2016-12-23 02:49, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 11:56:13PM -0800, Andrew David Wong wrote:
>> On 2016-12-22 07:33, J. Eppler wrote:
>>>
>>>>> 1. How can I search for qubes-templates in dom0 rpm repository? The qubes-dom0-update tool excludes all templates from a search.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=search qubes-template
>>>>
>>>> This will pass through the terminal output from the UpdateVM, so even
>>>> though templates are excluded in the dom0 dnf command, you'll still get
>>>> the search results (in red text by default).
>>>>
>>>> Remember that you won't see community templates unless you enable their repo:
>>>>
>>>> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-templates-community --action=search qubes-template
>>>
>>> Reading red text is not a really good solution from an usability perspective. What are the reasons to exclude templates from a search in the first place?
>>>
>
>> Actually, after further testing, I've found that this doesn't work. Even with `--enablerepo=qubes-templates-community`, I'm only getting the Fedora and Arch templates in search results (not Whonix or Debian). Without `--enablerepo=qubes-templates-community`, I only get the Fedora templates in the search results. So, this method doesn't work. Moreover, the results are inconsistent, since Debian is in the official templates-itl repo, whereas Arch is in the templates-community repo.
>
>> Marek, any idea what's going on here?
>
> Already installed templates are excluded from every qubes-dom0-update
> operation. Mostly to not accidentally upgrade such package - which would
> override all the changes made inside (including installed packages,
> applied updates etc). Currently the only exception is "reinstall"
> action, with one specific template given as an argument. There is a plan
> to extend this to some other actions:
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2527
>
> But in general, we need some better mechanism to distribute templates,
> this is one of the reasons...
>
Oh, I see. Tracking:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2534
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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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On 2016-12-23 02:49, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 11:56:13PM -0800, Andrew David Wong wrote:
>> On 2016-12-22 07:33, J. Eppler wrote:
>>>
>>>>> 1. How can I search for qubes-templates in dom0 rpm repository? The qubes-dom0-update tool excludes all templates from a search.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=search qubes-template
>>>>
>>>> This will pass through the terminal output from the UpdateVM, so even
>>>> though templates are excluded in the dom0 dnf command, you'll still get
>>>> the search results (in red text by default).
>>>>
>>>> Remember that you won't see community templates unless you enable their repo:
>>>>
>>>> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update --enablerepo=qubes-templates-community --action=search qubes-template
>>>
>>> Reading red text is not a really good solution from an usability perspective. What are the reasons to exclude templates from a search in the first place?
>>>
>
>> Actually, after further testing, I've found that this doesn't work. Even with `--enablerepo=qubes-templates-community`, I'm only getting the Fedora and Arch templates in search results (not Whonix or Debian). Without `--enablerepo=qubes-templates-community`, I only get the Fedora templates in the search results. So, this method doesn't work. Moreover, the results are inconsistent, since Debian is in the official templates-itl repo, whereas Arch is in the templates-community repo.
>
>> Marek, any idea what's going on here?
>
> Already installed templates are excluded from every qubes-dom0-update
> operation. Mostly to not accidentally upgrade such package - which would
> override all the changes made inside (including installed packages,
> applied updates etc). Currently the only exception is "reinstall"
> action, with one specific template given as an argument. There is a plan
> to extend this to some other actions:
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2527
>
> But in general, we need some better mechanism to distribute templates,
> this is one of the reasons...
>
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2534
- --
Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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