Questions regarding updating a Fedora-template to a new version integer

[M]

I have the following questions regarding updating a Fedora-template to a new version integer:

1)  Will the files in the desktop, documents, downloads and QubesIncoming folder be deleted when updating it ?

2)  Will all the AppVM's that is connected with the Fedora-template also be updated and still work after the update ?

3)  Will the installed applications in the Fedora-template have to be reinstalled afterwards ?

4)  If not, then why not let Qubes Update the Fedora-template to a new version integer when the user accept it to do so, or at least create a script file that a user can execute instead of having to execute all the commands manually ?

[Effie ML]

On 11/13/20 1:59 PM, 'M' via qubes-users wrote:

I have the following questions regarding updating a Fedora-template to a new version integer:

1)  Will the files in the desktop, documents, downloads and QubesIncoming folder be deleted when updating it ?

No, this is AppVM data, template updates should not touch AppVM data.

2)  Will all the AppVM's that is connected with the Fedora-template also be updated and still work after the update ?

No, you need to change all AppVMs to the new template. However, they should work.

3)  Will the installed applications in the Fedora-template have to be reinstalled afterwards ?

It depends on what update route you go.

There is the (what I find to be easier) way of downloading the package in dom0. But it means that you will end up with a completely clean template.

Or you can do an in-place update, it will preserve all your applications and changes.

4)  If not, then why not let Qubes Update the Fedora-template to a new version integer when the user accept it to do so, or at least create a script file that a user can execute instead of having to execute all the commands manually ?

I would like to see that too.

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[M]

"[...] you need to change all AppVMs to the new template."

Is this done by open the "Qube Settings" in the AppVm's and under Template choose the new template, or what is needed to connect the old AppVM's to the new/updated template ?

[Effie ML]

I am not sure, it seems so: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/#switching

You should see the docs on upgrading: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/fedora/#upgrading

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[unman]

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 02:24:27PM +0100, Effie ML wrote:
> I am not sure, it seems so:
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/#switching
>
> You should see the docs on upgrading:
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/fedora/#upgrading
>
> On 11/13/20 2:21 PM, 'M' via qubes-users wrote:
> > "[...] you need to change all AppVMs to the new template."
> >
> > Is this done by open the "Qube Settings" in the AppVm's and under
> > Template choose the new template, or what is needed to connect the old
> > AppVM's to the new/updated template ?
> >

There is a nice Template manager tool - look in the System Menu for "manage
Templates for qubes"
You can select multiple qubes and switch to a new template with one
press of a button.