New Foreshadow exploits CPU bug

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jonbrown...@gmail.com

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Aug 20, 2018, 9:19:00 PM8/20/18
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So the new Foreshadow exploit bypasses all Intel CPU protections even secure enclaves SGX promised to solve. Additionally it bypasses all VM protections. Check it out below:

https://foreshadowattack.eu/

Andrew David Wong

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Aug 20, 2018, 9:35:40 PM8/20/18
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With respect to Qubes and Xen, "Foreshadow" is another name for
CVE-2018-3620 and CVE-2018-3646 (CVE-2018-3615 doesn't apply Xen,
since it doesn't currenty use SGX), which we've been discussing in
this thread:

https://groups.google.com/d/topic/qubes-users/Isn_hko7tQs/discussion

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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org

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Tai...@gmx.com

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Aug 20, 2018, 10:38:37 PM8/20/18
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SGX is another ME service slash intel marketing gimmick invented for DRM
not security.

If the person who purchased the computer can't examine the VM's running
on it then they are not owning it simply licensing it which is why SGX
is a bad technology and people shouldn't buy x86.

Leo Gaspard

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Aug 21, 2018, 5:11:05 AM8/21/18
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Consider you want to deploy your things in the cloud, eg. because it's
less expensive. Then I guess you would actually like to not have to
trust the cloud provider :)

You still have to trust Intel for actually doing what they promise, but
you have to trust the processor manufacturer at some point anyway.

Not saying SGX actually meets its promises, though, just reacting to
your second paragraph. There are use cases for having the person who
owns a computer not being able to examine VM's running on it. Whether
you want or not to use or have them is a different question.
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