Quebes and whonix

[Black Beard]

Hello community,

at the moment I am increasingly concerned with the topic of anonymity on the Internet. Through several pages I became aware of the Linux system Quebes.

Since I do not want to be among the most transparent people, I have to install Quebes in the next few days. I hope you can help me. 🙂

According to my searches you should not install Quebes in a virtual machine. The Quebes operating system requires good hardware.

- Does it make sense to install the OS on a 64 GB USB stick? If so, can I install software like Linux Wine?

- Can I go to Quebes paralel Whonix
to install?


About an feedback, i would be very happy.

regards and thanks in advance

[awokd]

On Mon, April 2, 2018 9:01 am, Black Beard wrote:
> Hello community,
>
>
> at the moment I am increasingly concerned with the topic of anonymity on
> the Internet. Through several pages I became aware of the Linux system
> Quebes.
>
>
> Since I do not want to be among the most transparent people, I have to
> install Quebes in the next few days. I hope you can help me. 🙂

Welcome!

> According to my searches you should not install Quebes in a virtual
> machine. The Quebes operating system requires good hardware.

Correct.

> - Does it make sense to install the OS on a 64 GB USB stick?

This is OK for trying it out, but Qubes really works best as a permanent
installation on a large, fast fixed disk.

> If so, can I
> install software like Linux Wine?

You can install most Linux apps without any problems, but Wine might be
tricky/not possible since you won't have video acceleration inside an
AppVM. Don't know if that's a requirement; have not tried it myself.

> - Can I go to Quebes paralel Whonix
> to install?

Qubes comes with Whonix already built in! So you don't have to do anything
special to get it, just leave the box checked for it when you install
Qubes.

[Black Beard]

Hey awokd,

thx for your helpful feedback. 👍

My OS is actually Windows 10. When i understand all correct, its best to create a new partition next to windows 10?

For me its better to use Quebes permanent. The USB Stick, its no good idea then.

1000 thanks for help.👍🙂

[Neelix]

Just delete your windows partition

👍🙂

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Kind Regards,

Neelix

[Black Beard]

Hey,

thx for your comment.

It would be cool if i can use windows 10 next to Quebes. 🙂

Is it possible to create a own partition next to Win10?

regards ✌

[awokd]

It is possible to dual-boot Qubes and Win10, but it can be difficult to
get set up. You might want to go ahead and install it to your USB drive to
try it out first. That will let you test and see if you can get Wine
running. Then you can decide if you want to try to dual boot (but it
reduces Qubes' security if you do that.)

[Black Beard]

Hello guys,

okay. 1000 thx for your nice and helpful feedbacks. 👍🙂

I want use win10, too. Lets say , i want install Quebes full on my laptop, but needs my Win10, too. How can i realized this project without a Usb Stick?

regards and thx in advance

[799]

Hello Black Beard,

Black Beard <franziska...@gmail.com> schrieb am Mo., 2. Apr. 2018, 22:14:

I want use win10, too. Lets say , i want install Quebes full on my laptop, but needs my Win10, too. How can i realized this project without a Usb Stick?

The question is why you need to run Windows and why it has to be windows 10?

Usually you don't _want_ to run Windows but to complete special tasks and to do so, you might _need_ to run windows.

The answer in my case to my two questions above:

Why windows?

1) I need to run our ERP Client application

2) I need to run Remote Desktop Manager from Devolutions to access our central Credential and Session repository

Why windows 10?

Because windows 10 is the only OS which is supported by internal IT. 

The solution in my case was to install a windows 7 VM with a VPN Client to run ERP and Remote Desktop Manager.

The downside is that the OS has to be managed by me not our internal IT dep.

Additional I have setup VMwarw Horizon View on a Fedora 26 based AppVM to connect to my "corporate Windows 10 virtual Desktop".

I was running a dual boot setup before, but have migrated to a Qubes only setup.

Using a Dualboot setup has the disadvantages that you don't benefit from all the benefits Qubes offers while you work with windows and the longer you work with windows, the less likely it is to "force" yourself  to migrate to Qubes.

The main benefit I had forcing myself to use Qubes as only OS was to look and find a solution to get a workings solution to connect to our corporate Microsoft Exchange via Linux.

You can try to run Windows 10 as a virtualized stand alone VM in Qubes.

Dualboot is not something I would recommend under normal circumstances.

Another idea could be to run Windows from a USB stick. Using a 128GB USB3 Modell this works fair enough

[799]

[js...@riseup.net]

Black Beard:

Hi Black Beard,

Like others have said dual booting qubes with windows reduces security,
so it's better to avoid it if possible. You can install windows in a VM
in qubes to run windows apps in, and that's good enough for most
purposes. See documentation here:

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/hvm/

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/windows-appvms/

If you really do need dual boot though there's documentation here:

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot/

-Jackie

[Black Beard]

Jear,

sounds hear really cool. This community is really nice and helpful. Thanks for this. 👍🙂

Okay, i will make a backup tommorow and will install Quebes. 👍✌

Windows will come into virtualbox. Iam a Linux Newbie. Can someone recommend some good sites or Videos to install Quebes Os correctly?

For Linux i need a swap and home partition. Which sizes are good for that? Are 40 GB enough for the Swap partion?

Thanks for our tipps and feedbacks.

[Black Beard]

Hey,

i found all informations on the main site. But sometimes it can be, that someone have outher good sites.

Cao

[awokd]

If you want to erase everything on your drive, Qubes is usually easy to
install. You don't need to specify sizes then. Use automatic partitioning,
look for the "make additional space available" and tell it to erase
everything. Windows 10 will be gone!

[cooloutac]

Look at instructions for how to install fedora, and it is very similar.