Master Volume on IPad Remote

[Micha Messermann]

Hi All,

sorry for bothering with my beginner questions. I know this question is in one way or the other quite often asked here.. but I’m looking for days now and to be honest, I don’t really find an answers here or at cookbook which I get working.  

I have an Ipad on stage (connection via usb cable or Wifi to the mac) working with Qlab Remote. I handle everything on queLIST. queCART is not working for different reasons.

I work as an Actor and Entertainer and I handle the music and video during the show myself. Quelab is perfect, but: I need a to adjust music volume on Stage (prefer as a slider, not a knob). Working simultaneous in or next to the Qlab-Remote-App (So I don’t have to change Apps to adjust Volume)

- Idea 1 (would be the best): Is there a way in Quelab to get this done?

- Idea 2: I managed to get a Volume-trigger with OSC and QueCARTS, but I need the QueLIST because of different reasons. To Change in the QLab-Remote between Lists and Carts takes quit long and is not a very nice option.
Question: Can I use one workspace with quecart (Volume) and one workspace with quelist simultaneously and they interact with each other? Is there a way to open two Quelab workspace with split-screen on the IPad-Remote?

- Idea 3: The Volume buttons of the Ipad! Now they don’t interact with Quelab, and I don`t get a way to make hotkeys of them – is there a way to get the volume buttons on the IPad work with Quelab?

- Idea 4: Midi App on the IPad. Is there an easy, not to complicated app for Ipad were I can get a Slider for Volume which is always floating in front or works with splitscreen? Is TouchOSC the right App for exactly this?

- Last Idea: Buy an extra machine, like the Audio Ape (but all this extra and extra gets more and more complicated, and it seems a bit overdosed and vulnerable just for a simple Volume)

Thanks for every input! :-)
Micha

 @QLab-Team, just for an input: it would be so nice to have 2 free programmable “buttons” or a slider on Qlab-Remote which trigger ques.. for example below of the play, pause, and stop buttons.. Or to make this play and stop buttons for free use.. Just an Idea..

[Patrick Spadrille]

AFAIK, controling live volume has always been something lacking in Qlab. You can program the volume of every cue in a very precise way but when you fire it, you get what you have programmed without any live modification possible. They may be some scripts modifying the volume controls of the cues but then you modify the "regular" volume of your cues. I really hope that the next version of Qlab will give us some ability to control the live volumes of individual cues, cues outputs, crosspoints etc... To control live volume, we use our mixer (Behringer X32) which can be remote controlled with iPad. Of course, you can modify the volume of the channels but not individual cues if they are routed to the same channel.

[Micha Messermann]

Thanks Partick!

Sometimes the most obvious Ideas are not visible: I use a qsc touchmix anyway - and it can be controlled with the Ipad. I ususally just never did it. (Problem is, as far as I remember: the touchmix app is not possible in splitscreen. I will check this out..)

Yes, the really good quelab with some life volume control (or, like I said, two free programmable buttons directing to ques (like Carts)) would make it perfekt for me..

[micpool]

This can be done.

You can insert an AU plugin on a QLab  audio device output (or cue output). In order to provide you with a master level control your AU must have a level control and be capable of being controlled remotely. The only way of controlling an AU plugin in QLab without using the GUI is via OSC. Users have used SooperLooper AU64 to achieve this, and although this stopped working with Catalina as it hadn't been updated since 2014, there have been 2 recent versions which have brought it up to date. However this plug-in is designed to be the mother of all loop pedal style plugins, so has loads of irrelevant parameters and a complex GUI, and doesn't like multiple instances running in a workspace.

Luckily Rob Parkinson at That Little Box has made an AU plugin called levelBox which only controls gain and can be controlled via OSC e.g /levelBox -10 sent to the port displayed on the plug-in. (Additional instances increment the port by 1 starting at 10001)

You can download it here (It's free!)  https://www.thatlittlebox.co.uk/levelbox

Now to part 2 of your problem. 

OSC can be sent from your iPad to the plugin using a slider object in Touch OSC, Lemur, KiOSC, or similar controller apps. Unfortunately, although QLab Remote can work in split screen mode on some models of iPad, none of the common OSC programs provide split screen functionality.

There are 2 solutions.

Open Touch OSC first and then use QLab Remote in 'slide over' mode, which most apps written for split screen can do. The downside of this is that QLab remote will be less than a quarter of your screen width leaving 75 percent of the screen for displaying 1 fader. It works though.

Obviously it would be more useful if you could use split screen and have 75 percent screen for QLab Remote and 25 percent for the fader. The only way I have found to do this is to set up a fader in  an open stage control server and then use Chrome on the iPad to log into the open stage control server.

This is a bit more complex but would achieve exactly what you want 

Mic

[Ed Boos]

More than one copy of Qlab Remote can connect to a single workspace.

One copy running queues, and one running a cart.  I don't know if two copies can be made to run on one iPad,

but an iPad for queues, and an iPhone for the cart with one cart button running OSC "cue/active/level/0/0/+ 1" will increase master volume by one db on 

the active audio cue each time it is pressed.  The number following the plus sign can be larger if fine control is not required.  Change "+" to "-" to decrease,

and put that command in another cart button.

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[Micha Messermann]

Oooh - thank you!! Amazing! Thanks a lot!!

[Micha Messermann]

@ Mic: really amazing, I will give this a try and see if I can get it work..

@ ed from qlab (sorry cant see your name): thanks, I thought about this solution, would be a worth to think more about another Device, in case nothing else works.

And just in case somebody has the same problem: QSC TouchMix-8/16 Control App is not possible in Spilt-Screen, but Qlab is. So in case 1/3 of the screen for qlab is enough for you it will work. (simillar shown in the pictures above from mic).