Virtual/In Person Events

[Roy Hobbs]

Hey everyone,

Had our quarterly call with Maria from the Alumni Assoc. They are not changing the requirements for gold status this year...so we will need to host 8 events (one in each category) like we have done in the past. The main changes are virtual events count and we can get pretty creative with those. She is going to send me some details of events other clubs have had.

If you have any ideas for events or want to host one please let us know!!

Some ideas we had:

• Virtual fall colors hike - we pick a date/range of dates and people go on their own hike and share photos to the event page
• Presentation/QnA on election security - one of our local alumni reached out to us in the past on presenting about this since they are on the board of elections. This would make for a great zoom style event
• Purdue Alumni mask sales - this is hopefully getting set up by the alumni assoc for us to sell masks that benefit the scholarship

In person events - we can host in person events and some clubs are doing this. If you have an idea of a way we could do some in person things please let us know. The Alumni Assoc will have to approve us. Events need to track all attendee names and be kept under 50. If they go over 50 they need approval from the Provost.

The only idea I had for in person was some sort of patio happy hour maybe. The Icehouse does have a large patio. Additionally something in a park or hiking could also be in person and safe.

_Roy

[Danella Soeka]

Thanks Roy and hi everyone,

 

Are we interested in continuing the Euchre quarterly events at the breweries? All have patio or inside distancing set up, masks until you are seated and we could meet that limit of under 50. I know Factotum would gladly welcome us back but not sure if you think this is not “safe enough”? I’m part of many groups that are getting creative with virtual events so let me think on that. I like the virtual fall colors hike/upload pics idea. I’d add one thing to that and ask that they have something Purdue on to help brand in the photos.

 

Let me know and if you are interested in continuing with brewery euchre. I’ll be at Factotum tomorrow and can put it out there.

 

Danella

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[Roy Hobbs]

Thanks Danella for thinking on virtual ideas..ive been drawing up blanks on what to do!! I really like the Euchre events as an option for right now since they stay fairly small so I think that could be pretty safe/low risk.

I dont think we have had any events this year yet (since June) so by the end of June next year we need to have 8 events. One in each of the categories below. If we can shoot to do one even a month that will get us more than covered.

To cover the service item on the list we could work with Icehouse to set up a clothing drive week at the bar where people can just come in at any time and drop off clothes we can then donate to a shelter.

_Roy

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[Danella Soeka]

Sounds good. I’ll ask Laura. Do you want to shoot for sometime in September and do the colors event in October? 

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Thanks Danella for thinking on virtual ideas..ive been drawing up blanks on what to do!! I really like the Euchre events as an option for right now since they stay fairly small so I think that could be pretty safe/low risk.

I dont think we have had any events this year yet (since June) so by the end of June next year we need to have 8 events. One in each of the categories below. If we can shoot to do one even a month that will get us more than covered.

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[Roy Hobbs]

Looking like fall colors are going to peak early this year due to the recent dry weather, so maybe do that for sept and euchre for oct??

_Roy

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[Danella Soeka]

I actually just emailed with Laura and she is open and excited to try and make it work. It’s a whole new world though when it comes to hosting an event so we have to think a bit about how we could do this.

 

• We usually rotate during play and we wouldn’t be able to do that. No “mingling” is allowed right now. People have to stay seated unless they are using the bathroom. Can we work out a way to still pay, change partners, not change partners, etc. without moving from table to table? You euchre people will have to answer that.
• I believe we were trying to stick with Saturday’s so asked about September 26^th or October 3^rd to give us a bit of time to market it. She’s fine with those dates but we can go further into October too based on your colors chart; I’m sure she wouldn’t have any conflicts.

 

So, if you can figure out a way to play and keep the same four people at a table, we can do it and get it on the calendar to start marketing. I don’t know how people are feeling right now about “in person socializing” but there a lot of safety measures in place that we should mention in the marketing to help people feel comfortable.

 

Danella

 

 

 

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Looking like fall colors are going to peak early this year due to the recent dry weather, so maybe do that for sept and euchre for oct??

 

_Roy

 

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[Roy Hobbs]

I dont know Euchre so Ill leave that advice up to Pete/Jim to advise on! Hopefully we can make it work.

_Roy

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[Peter Bullard]

First of all, the virtual fall-hike is an amazing idea. It seems easy enough wrap a campaign around (cough cough Danella cough – not a CV19 cough) and really cool to come back and share the photos while encouraging people to get outside.

 

Euchre-person here – it’s going to be tough to orchestrate without mingling and the rules Danella spoke to below… to the point that I’d say don’t do it. I’m sure there are some computer/mobile app options that allow some group play possibilities, but I think a euchre/networking experience would be extremely difficult rollout to our alumni network. Open tables at the brewery would be needed to fill up with new partners – and for that there would need to be a group of “clearing house” tables while other games took place. Unless everyone was instructed to sit at their tables until all corresponding games that started when they started were finished and we could all delicately change teams. Those events, to me, are fun because of all the things that CV19 takes away… I’m not saying it’s impossible, and so if Jim wants to try it…..rock and roll…but I’m not trying to figure that one out.

 

Speaking of “intent” I think the goal this year should just be to retain the gold-status by checking off the boxes and not overthink digital events.

 

• I like the idea of getting an assembly of speakers that would be willing to present to a group of Zoom participants about different topics.
• I like the idea of the IHT clothes drive.

 

Other ideas:

• Broncos watch party (games start in <2wks)?
  • Couldn’t you still tell people to go to IceHouse?
  • Throw out a Zoom invite and see who pops their face on the screen?
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ79nNquQ0c
• Join a virtual concert together?
  • Find a free concert. Maybe a Colorado band
  • Cool band? Tell people to login and “WaTcH wItH sOmE bOiLeRmAkErS”

 

My $0.02,

 

Pete

 

 

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I dont know Euchre so Ill leave that advice up to Pete/Jim to advise on! Hopefully we can make it work.

_Roy

 

 

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I actually just emailed with Laura and she is open and excited to try and make it work. It’s a whole new world though when it comes to hosting an event so we have to think a bit about how we could do this.

 

• We usually rotate during play and we wouldn’t be able to do that. No “mingling” is allowed right now. People have to stay seated unless they are using the bathroom. Can we work out a way to still pay, change partners, not change partners, etc. without moving from table to table? You euchre people will have to answer that.
• I believe we were trying to stick with Saturday’s so asked about September 26^th or October 3^rd to give us a bit of time to market it. She’s fine with those dates but we can go further into October too based on your colors chart; I’m sure she wouldn’t have any conflicts.

 

So, if you can figure out a way to play and keep the same four people at a table, we can do it and get it on the calendar to start marketing. I don’t know how people are feeling right now about “in person socializing” but there a lot of safety measures in place that we should mention in the marketing to help people feel comfortable.

 

Danella

 

 

 

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Looking like fall colors are going to peak early this year due to the recent dry weather, so maybe do that for sept and euchre for oct??

 

_Roy

 

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[Peter Bullard]

A thought….

Poker is more of a “sit and stay” card game…..

 

I’m not sure what the rules of that road would be (law wise) but if donations from attendees > could translate into poker chips >which translate into raffle tickets > which translate into prizes?

 

That might be more conducive to a Factotum experience and that draws in a crowd interested in winning something and contributing to something…

 

I just don’t know the legal red-tape in marketing a Poker Event….

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[Roy Hobbs]

I like the sound of that since it needs less moving around! Not sure on the legal stuff...I think the raffles are already in a grey area thats not really enforced anyways so I dont see much of a problem doing it...especially they way you mentioned where winning is via prizes and not money.

Broncos party could work too...I saw something that big10 football will happen in oct? I thought it was all cancelled! So we could have a patio watch party with an attendee cap and also host a zoom as well in conjunction with it.

_Roy

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[Roy Hobbs]

Heard back from the Alumni assoc on the mask thing...they arent going to be able to help clubs with setting up sales on this (they just made some big cuts there - see attached).

Would someone (or multiple people) on the board like to take on selling masks for the club?? Would need to price out a few vendors and manage the orders. The club would front the money..if someone is a whiz with google sheets we can likely set up an easy to use ordering page too.

_Roy

[Justin Carter]

So I still have my hands full with a 6mo old and 3yr old but I can help create the ordering page using Microsoft Forms and get a vendor workstream going.

 

Apologies as I don’t have the details behind what we need to do on this initiative but giving it a first stab.

 

Purdue Facemask ordering form

 

Vendors:

https://shop.ouraysportswear.com/ <- CO company. I have contacts there.

https://www.vistaprint.com/?dr=1&GP=09%2f14%2f2020+11%3a02%3a21&GPS=5771187315&GNF=0

 

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[Roy Hobbs]

Awesome thanks Justin!! I tried to open the order link draft but says I dont have permission.

I like the idea of using a CO company...especially if you have contacts there since that will probably help move things along smoothly.

_Roy

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[Justin Carter]

Oops. Didn’t publish. Can you try again?

 

Yes I can reach out to them and probably get a good price on them. They’re a good crew. Out of Englewood.

 

Are we just gauging interest at the moment? The site allows for online ordering and designing but I can probably get a much better deal. Just need to know the order amount.

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[Roy Hobbs]

Cool it works now.

I was debating internally how to handle this...open to feedback from others. Here are the two routes I see:

• Gauge interest via form to get a rough number, and then order around that number and maybe some extra in bulk....create a proper selling form after to handle payment/etc
• Create full order form now to get more a real commitment from people, earlier payment, and exact numbers...could still order some extras as well

I kind of like the second route since its overall more efficient...but knowing our alumni base I am unsure of the real interest in this or how many we could actually sell. So it may be best to see how much interest there is first.

_Roy

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[Justin Carter]

It doesn’t hurt to gauge interest and just buy off those numbers. I’m sure if we bulk buy some people would end up buying them or we give them out at events.

 

Are we allowed to use some vintage Purdue Pete images? Or perhaps use the traditional griffin?

 

Purdue has a rich history of different seals. If we could get approval to use one, would make the masks super unique. I’d buy a few for family for Holiday gifts. They’re PU grads as well.

https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/purduetoday/didyouknow/2016/Q1/did-you-know-purdue-seal.html

o    Couldn’t you still tell people to go to IceHouse?

o    Throw out a Zoom invite and see who pops their face on the screen?

o    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ79nNquQ0c

·         Join a virtual concert together?

o    Find a free concert. Maybe a Colorado band

o    Cool band? Tell people to login and “WaTcH wItH sOmE bOiLeRmAkErS”

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[Roy Hobbs]

The griffin idea is cool! I have always liked the 1968 one...that was on my first Purdue shirt I ever bought haha

Justin - could you update that form you set up so its a mask interest form? I can get that send out to our email list tonight or tomorrow and also create a facebook event for it. Thinking the following on it:

• Name
• Email
• Number of masks interested in
• Some kind of design idea examples (just a simple image of the logos) multiple checkboxes to see what people want the most with the griffin logo, motion P, alumni logo, Purdue Pete, and boilermaker train

Then depending on the numbers interested/designs we may be able to hit minimums on a couple styles.

_Roy

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[Justin Carter]

Done. Published and live.

 

Roy can you check out? I can make changes as needed for the next 25 mins before I head out.

 

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The griffin idea is cool! I have always liked the 1968 one...that was on my first Purdue shirt I ever bought haha

I like the idea of using a CO company..especially if you have contacts there since that will probably help move things along smoothly.

 

_Roy

 

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[Roy Hobbs]

Sorry I didnt get back to you sooner...cut out for a quick bike ride. Thats awesome with the design options!! Well Done!

In the sub-header at the top could we tweak it to say something like: We are currently gauging interest in making a bulk mask order to benefit our scholarship! Once we determine how many people are interested and design preferences we will place a bulk order and send out an official order form.

The rough costs in section 4 - I assume thats the final cost estimate and not our club bulk cost right?

_Roy

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[Justin Carter]

Updated.

 

Correct that those prices are what we would charge, not the club price.

 

The cheaper options, e.g. 1 and 2, are $5.00 per mask through my contacts estimated. Option 3 is $14 per if we  get to $100. But those are VistaPrint. I know no one at VistaPrint…

 

I’m all for option #2. I’m sure we can go higher in cost and go higher end if we do their custom embroidery. Turn them into something super special but I don’t think that’s what we’re after. Since they’re local, it might go up or down based on design.

 

I’m in for 10.

Broncos party could work too..I saw something that big10 football will happen in oct? I thought it was all cancelled! So we could have a patio watch party with an attendee cap and also host a zoom as well in conjunction with it.

_Roy

 

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[Roy Hobbs]

Ok everyone I have the facebook event for this set up and also the evite/newsletter sending out in a little bit. Please share them with anyone in your network. We can ship these easily as well so feel free to share this (either the direct form link or facebook event) with Purdue friends and family in other cities as well. If you plan on buying a mask please fill out the form. I will set the interest survey deadline for next week wednesday 9/23 at 9pm. Once we close that and get the results we will then build out the order and communicate the details.

Form for mask interest: https://tinyurl.com/yxc4m49l

Facebook event to invite friends/family to: https://www.facebook.com/events/2675485036052366/ 

To make this a successful fundraiser we need everyone on the board to share this with as many people as possible. 

Thanks!!

_Roy

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[Justin Carter]

Hey crew

 

See below for initial feedback on options. This is just after only a few days but wanted to share what we’re seeing.

 

52 responses with 181 masks requested. That’s awesome!

 

 

 

 

 

1            anonymous       YAY

2            anonymous       Would prefer a black mask/ color options

3            anonymous       Wont buy white mask, get too dirty.

4            anonymous       Boilermaker Train Centered/black mask or Cradle of Astronauts logo

5            anonymous       A dark background would be better because it shows dirt less....

6            anonymous       All black with on larger motion P on one side

7            anonymous       I like darker colored masks as they show less dirt. The train, purdue Pete and block P are favorites. might buy more as have other family members Like style 3 as the satin fabric shows better images than cotton but would do style 2. Prefer it style 1

8            anonymous       Very important to have a metal nose clip to adjust to fit with glasses and sunglasses. If it doesn't have this I wouldn't buy.

9            anonymous       Face masks that are not ear loop type. Prefer the type that you can hang around your neck when you are not needed to use.

10          anonymous       Block P on one side with Pete on the other

11          anonymous       Pete

12          anonymous       None

13          anonymous       Any mask would be fine with me

14          anonymous       I appreciate getting the Purdue mask questions. But, the opinion matrix doesn't match the pictures at all. What's with the handwritten numbers that don't match anything????

15          anonymous       These are really simple I think you could do something really cool with a full boilermaker special image across the mask to even the alum symbol.ask would be fine with me14anonymousI appreciate getting the Purdue mask questions. But, the opinion matrix doesn't match the pictures at all. What's with the handwritten numbers that don't match anything????15anonymousThese are really simple I think you could do something really cool with a full boilermaker special image across the mask to even the alum symbol.

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[Roy Hobbs]

Woah that’s a lot!! I plan to make some more social pushes in the next few days including posting it on my personal page too. 

Hope everyone else is sharing/posting too!

_Roy

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Hey crew

 

See below for initial feedback on options. This is just after only a few days but wanted to share what we’re seeing.

 

52 responses with 181 masks requested. That’s awesome!

 

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[Roy Hobbs]

Hey everyone - hope you are promoting the mask order interest link!! Here is a quick and easy facebook/email/whatever post template for you to use. Deadline to fill out the form is tonight!!

Purdue friends!! Want to buy a Purdue themed facemask for a good cause?? My local alumni club will be selling masks to benefit our scholarship fund. Fill out the linked form TODAY if you are interested. We will ship them! https://tinyurl.com/yxc4m49l

When posting this simply share the attached photo and make the above text the caption. This will make it more visible to friends than just sharing the link.

_Roy

[Danella Soeka]

Done! 😊 

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[Roy Hobbs]

Justin - go ahead and close out the survey and let’s go through the results so we can get an order figured out. Thanks!

_Roy

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[Justin Carter]

Gotcha. Let me wrap this up tomorrow and we can huddle on the results.

Hey everyone,

 

Had our quarterly call with Maria from the Alumni Assoc. They are not changing the requirements for gold status this year..so we will need to host 8 events (one in each category) like we have done in the past. The main changes are virtual events count and we can get pretty creative with those. She is going to send me some details of events other clubs have had.

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[Justin Carter]

Team,

 

See attached for the facemask results’ raw data.

 

Total count is 204 masks.

 

Seems Option 2 via Ouray Sportswear is the winner. “The Tultex face mask is reusable 3ply cotton construction with filter pocket and all around binding closed ear loops for perfect fit.”

 

Out of the mask designs, the scores ranged from 2.4 to 2.8 with 55 responses. The one that scored 4.25, the clear outlier was the below. So this design would apply to the Option 2 mask type (as shown its option 3).

 

You can also still go to the link to see the survey

https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=vBkjbhG_ikiYD5ihUwqy1cwGHWvSbyRInK_XR0SeKDxUNkJBSFUzSDJMV1VBTENQMzcyS0E2NDQ4TC4u

 

I can get a quote for some masks. I’ll probably order a few more for the boilermakers I work with who I know want some but didn’t fill out the survey.

 

Thinking 225 or 250? Then we finalize design and send the formal order form to those that responded, place the order I’m assuming funded through the club, then we ship them to each person?

 

What would we want to do as next steps?

 

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[Justin Carter]

FYI, here are the free text comments.

 

There was interest in doing a single block P on the side with Purdue Pete on it. Boilermaker special too.

 

But seems to be the black facemask with some sort of P on it.

 

Alternatively, we could also create two separate designs for orders of 125/run.

 

Once we have an idea, I’ll reach out to my guy at Ouray and see what we can do for awesome pricing. Might be able to score them at $3-5/ea.

 

YAY

Would prefer a black mask/ color options

Wont buy white mask, get too dirty.

Boilermaker Train Centered/black mask or Cradle of Astronauts logo

A dark background would be better because it shows dirt less....

All black with on larger motion P on one side

I like darker colored masks as they show less dirt.  The train, purdue Pete and block P are favorites.

might buy more as have other family members Like style 3 as the satin fabric shows better images than cotton   but would do style 2.  Prefer it style 1

Very important to have a metal nose clip to adjust to fit with glasses and sunglasses.  If it doesn't have this I wouldn't buy.

Face masks that are not ear loop type. Prefer the type that you can hang around your neck when you are not needed to use.

Block P on one side with Pete on the other

Pete

None

Any mask would be fine with me

I appreciate getting the Purdue mask questions. But, the opinion matrix doesn't match the pictures at all. What's with the handwritten numbers that don't match anything????

These are really simple I think you could do something really cool with a full boilermaker special image across the mask to even the alum symbol.

I'd like to see the train logo circa 1995

Not sure about white ... gold or black probably better ...

can we just have one big P in the middle black with a gold P

Not a fan of the green. What about just the full Purdue logo?

A design with just one P on each side would be cool (like the second round of griffin masks)

Ear extensors for all day use for healthcare professionals

6            anonymous       All black with on larger motion P on one side

[Roy Hobbs]

Awesome results!

I’d be in favor of doing 250..I would think it will be easy to sell the extras. Does anyone else have thoughts or know of family/friends that would buy more? 

I think that one design makes the most sense, we can ask if there would be a price difference to do two designs. If it’s the same or insignificant we can consider two types..otherwise one is fine.

_Roy

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Out of the mask designs, the scores ranged from 2.4 to 2.8 with 55 responses. The one that scored 4.25, the clear outlier was the below. So this design would apply to the Option 2 mask type (as shown its option 3).

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[Justin Carter]

Excellent. I put in the inquiry with my friend. Asked about a second option too if it keeps the costs down.

 

I’m hoping I can get a great hookup on pricing.

 

Does anyone have the official hi-res images I can pass on? They may also ask for proof that we can use the logo. Might be able to get past that red tape but would like to try to be proactive.

The griffin idea is cool! I have always liked the 1968 one..that was on my first Purdue shirt I ever bought haha

Hey everyone,

 

Had our quarterly call with Maria from the Alumni Assoc. They are not changing the requirements for gold status this year.so we will need to host 8 events (one in each category) like we have done in the past. The main changes are virtual events count and we can get pretty creative with those. She is going to send me some details of events other clubs have had.

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[Roy Hobbs]

I should be able to get the official logo, let me check. Not sure on permission stuff but I can look into that too. I know they have sent us info on that before.

_Roy

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[Roy Hobbs]

The only logo I have is the alumni block P and not the slanted P....I found a good hi-res though that I attached. According to the club site https://www.purduealumni.org/alumni-leaders/marketing/ we have to get things from officially licensed vendors. Im sure its a huge PITA to get a license and expensive. In the past we havent done this for things like magnets/biz cards...as well as shirts with school logos for the flag football competition. I really dont think its going to be an issue since this is just a small sale only to our alumni. If it was something we were selling for a while on some sort of online store anyone could access that might be something to worry about though.

_Roy

[Justin Carter]

Roy,

 

Interestingly enough, they used Purdue as their sample college for the first 6 pages of their 2020 collegiate lineup.

 

They make a lot of the officially registered gear now so they have a lot of the graphics on file in high res and already programmed for screen printing and embroidery.

 

As long as we can get authorization to use images, they’re thinking they might be able to get access to the official library…

 

That would make the facemasks about as ‘official’ Purdue gear as we could get…

 

 

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From: Roy Hobbs
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To: purdue-alumni-...@googlegroups.com
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The only logo I have is the alumni block P and not the slanted P....I found a good hi-res though that I attached. According to the club site https://www.purduealumni.org/alumni-leaders/marketing/ we have to get things from officially licensed vendors. Im sure its a huge PITA to get a license and expensive. In the past we havent done this for things like magnets/biz cards...as well as shirts with school logos for the flag football competition. I really dont think its going to be an issue since this is just a small sale only to our alumni. If it was something we were selling for a while on some sort of online store anyone could access that might be something to worry about though.

 

 

_Roy

 

 

Sorry I didnt get back to you sooner..cut out for a quick bike ride. Thats awesome with the design options!! Well Done!

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[Roy Hobbs]

Aside from the previous link I could find this - https://www.purdue.edu/trademarks-licensing/ seems like the process would be time consuming...

I can email our alumni association contact and see what she says...but I’m hesitant to open a can of worms on this and cause delays or big price increases 🤔🤔

_Roy

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Roy,

 

Interestingly enough, they used Purdue as their sample college for the first 6 pages of their 2020 collegiate lineup.

 

They make a lot of the officially registered gear now so they have a lot of the graphics on file in high res and already programmed for screen printing and embroidery.

 

As long as we can get authorization to use images, they’re thinking they might be able to get access to the official library…

 

That would make the facemasks about as ‘official’ Purdue gear as we could get…

 

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[Justin Carter]

Gotcha. We’ll try to avoid and just use graphics if I can get away with that.

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[Justin Carter]

So this is what I got:

“Unfortunately we aren’t able to produce anything on a mask that would reference the school in any way since we don’t have the licensing for it.”

 

Is there a way to get someone from MS to authorize the licensing of Purdue logos? Or maybe one that we can use in ‘non-licensed’ gear that is PU approved?

 

Probably should stay legally compliant.

 

We can also go a different route, say through VistaPrint, where they may not care or check.   

[Roy Hobbs]

I will check with the alumni assoc to see if we can get something. A few other clubs want to join our order potentially so this could be a decent sized order and drive the cost down for everyone.

_Roy

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[Roy Hobbs]

I should be able to get an approved design! Hopefully today.

The alumni assoc is looking to get some other clubs in on this order - could you ask them if we do a huge order can they ship to different locations? For example lets say we order 1000 masks and need to ship to like 4-5 different people. Can they do that and would there be any additional cost? Also, if they have price estimates for quantities that would be great too.

_Roy

[Justin Carter]

The price changes based on qty, but I think we can get them printed sub-$3 a mask.

They should have no problem sending to multiple locations. And they should be able to handle the volume without a problem.

Justin

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[Roy Hobbs]

Awesome thanks!! I will share that info. Do you know if there would be shipping costs or if they do free shipping? Maria (from the alumni assoc) wants to make sure we have all the possible cost estimates so other clubs can budget.

_Roy

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[Justin Carter]

There will be shipping costs. Do you have the addresses and quantities? 

Once I send on the design and give them those, we can nail it all down. 

Justin

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[Roy Hobbs]

Not yet, Maria is working with the other clubs to get the quantities and details as quickly as possible. Will share as soon as possible...hopefully by end of the week. Maria said design approval stuff from Purdue should be today or tomorrow.

_Roy

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[Roy Hobbs]

Update on licensing - Ouray Sportswear would have to become officially licensed by Purdue. There is unfortunately no exceptions on this...the process looks to be time consuming and cost money for them as well. I totally understand if they dont want to do this.

I am having the alumni association find out who made the protect Purdue masks that are very popular on campus and very similar design to what we want. Hopefully we can leverage that and get a very good price.

_Roy

[Roy Hobbs]

It seems that the alumni assoc wants to take this over now since almost every club wants to order masks...funny because this is what I wanted from the start. They seem to want to push a P Alumni logo design though that is very plain. I voiced my opposition to that as many of our alumni voted for a more fun design with the motion P logo and the alumni logo got very very little votes.

I will keep updating everyone as this progresses....

_Roy

[Danella Soeka]

Oh boy! Justin put so much work into this, as well as all your attention, just to have it land this way. There is a ton of stuff on Amazon that I know people are ordering so these items already exist.

 

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=purdue+face+gaiter&crid=2GSD46D1SYUOW&sprefix=Purdue+face%2Caps%2C204&ref=nb_sb_ss_i_5_11

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[Roy Hobbs]

Agreed - am not happy about this and voiced that to them. They should have handled this from the start because I KNEW every other club would want this. We are still looking to get the masks at a cost of around $3/mask so the clubs can raise a good amount of money.

On the good news side of this I dont think we will have to deal with collecting payment/shipping to individuals/pickup/etc...so thats nice at least. Well see how long this takes though!! I keep telling them to just use the very cool Protect Purdue mask design with the motion P all over it...was the most popular choice in our survey! Hopefully they go with it.

_Roy

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[Justin Carter]

My feelings aren’t hurt :-) As long as we raise the money for a good cause! Bummed the efforts couldn’t benefit our club specifically but that’s ok.

 

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Agreed - am not happy about this and voiced that to them. They should have handled this from the start because I KNEW every other club would want this. We are still looking to get the masks at a cost of around $3/mask so the clubs can raise a good amount of money.

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Awesome thanks!! I will share that info. Do you know if there would be shipping costs or if they do free shipping? Maria (from the alumni assoc) wants to make sure we have all the possible cost estimates so other clubs can budget.

_Roy

 

 

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 10:22 AM Justin Carter <justin...@gmail.com> wrote:

The price changes based on qty, but I think we can get them printed sub-$3 a mask.

 

They should have no problem sending to multiple locations. And they should be able to handle the volume without a problem.

 

Justin

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[Roy Hobbs]

Thanks for the effort Justin!! You crushed it! 

Individuals should be able to pick what club they want to benefit when purchasing so we should still be able to raise funds for our scholarship. Hopefully in the end our efforts end up helping out other clubs a bunch too :)

_Roy

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Awesome thanks!! I will share that info. Do you know if there would be shipping costs or if they do free shipping? Maria (from the alumni assoc) wants to make sure we have all the possible cost estimates so other clubs can budget.

_Roy

 

 

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 10:22 AM Justin Carter <justin...@gmail.com> wrote:

The price changes based on qty, but I think we can get them printed sub-$3 a mask.

 

They should have no problem sending to multiple locations. And they should be able to handle the volume without a problem.

 

Justin

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[Roy Hobbs]

Finally got info back from Purdue on how the mask thing will work. It sounds like they have an ordering platform for us...but I am not sure if they can ship direct. I asked if they could...since I do not want to deal with local pickup.

https://www.purduealumni.org/alumni-leaders/purdue-alumni-face-masks/

Also....as you will see they did not go with our design even though it scored much higher on the survey than the alumni logo....oh well.

_Roy

[Roy Hobbs]

Confirmed with Purdue they will not be able to ship direct to each person. They come in bulk to us and then we have to distribute.

Does anyone have any thoughts on how we should handle this order?? Please review the details here and let me know what you think. https://www.purduealumni.org/alumni-leaders/purdue-alumni-face-masks/ I will need volunteers to help distribute/ship these as our mask interest list was pretty big.

We need to get this set up and going ASAP as the alumni association has made a Dec 6th order deadline.

Thanks!

_Roy

[Justin Carter]

I would volunteer but we’re renovating and I have an 8mo and 3yr old so utter chaos here.

 

Wondering if Southwest Michigan created some unlicensed masks.

 

Justin Carter

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[Roy Hobbs]

I asked about SW MI and they did officially licensed ones and then had them all shipped to one person and the club shipped them out from there...I wanted to avoid doing that but it seems like there isnt really an option with the alumni association.

_Roy

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[Jim Vasil]

I would think you would just install a pickup.  Having the board ship them out/drive them doesn't really seem plausible.  Also, I don't think people would like for their addresses to be out there.

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[Roy Hobbs]

What do you mean by install a pickup?

_Roy

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[Jim Vasil]

Just set up a time and place to pick it up.

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[Roy Hobbs]

Hmm ya that could work..but not sure where? With indoor dining/bars closed it may be difficult. Open to ideas. Only other thing I can think of is getting a few people to split the shipping work up with.

_Roy

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[Roy Hobbs]

I was able to get the alumni assoc to print the shipping labels for us, so all we would have to do it put the mask in the envelope and mail it. Thats much easier to handle.

Hopefully will get the ordering system live asap and an event set up/emails sent.

_Roy

[Roy Hobbs]

I am in the process of setting up an eventbrite to collect money for the masks. I figure this is probably the easiest. I want to get this out asap today since its giving tuesday.

Thinking $12 per mask, includes shipping (these should fit in a normal envelope and be able to use one stamp to easily ship). If you think we can charge more like $15 I could try...but I figure $12 might get more sales.

Please let me know thoughts ASAP so I can get these out via FB, email, etc today.

_Roy

[Jim Vasil]

$12 sounds good to me.

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[Justin Carter]

My thought is $12 since it's purdue alumni group and not purdue direct. 

Justin

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[Roy Hobbs]

Thanks!

Order form is live - https://www.eventbrite.com/e/purdue-alumni-colorado-face-mask-order-benefitting-our-scholarship-tickets-131235538027

Check it out and let me know if you see any issues. Working on fb/email stuff now and will send the links out soon.

_Roy

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[Roy Hobbs]

fb event https://www.facebook.com/events/315160509512610 

Please invite your friends!!!

_Roy

[Justin Carter]

It looks like we sold out of our Facemasks 😉

 

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[Roy Hobbs]

whoops....fixed it. Today is not my day...im really pissed at how purdue handled this and didnt listen to us about the design. I already got multiple messages from friends complaining about the dumb design. I suspect we will not sell nearly as many.

_Roy

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[Justin Carter]

Confirmed that its fixed now.

 

I think it has a strong vibe like something the alumni association sends out to spur donations or a thank you for renewing memberships. Like those bumper stickers and drink coasters.

 

But c’est la vie. I’ll order 1.

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[Roy Hobbs]

Hey everyone!

We are up to about 60 masks sold so far and quite a few extra donations to the scholarship as well!

If you havent bought one yet or shared with your friends and family please do!! We will ship these nationwide so anyone in your network can order. This only takes a few minutes to share and will really help out the club.

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/purdue-alumni-colorado-face-mask-order-benefitting-our-scholarship-tickets-131235538027

https://www.facebook.com/events/315160509512610 

I also attached the mask image if you want to share that and the link. Pictures tend to get more likes/views than a simple link. 

_Roy

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[Roy Hobbs]

Sorry that file is a gif and facebook doesnt like that. jpg attached.

_Roy

[Danella Soeka]

Shared on my page. Finger’s crossed. Great work guys!

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[Roy Hobbs]

Mask order closes today at 10pm FYI....dont see too many board members on the order list....

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/purdue-alumni-colorado-face-mask-order-benefitting-our-scholarship-tickets-131235538027

_Roy

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[Roy Hobbs]

We sold 117 masks and raised over $1600 for the scholarship!

We have to order in quantities of 50 so we will be getting 150 and can give away or sell the rest in the future. I will be having Purdue take the mask payment from our dues sharing funds so we maximize the amount of that $1600 that goes to the scholarship. Once the money transfers to our account we can deal with getting it to Purdue into the scholarship. I forget where this puts us in terms of turning the account into an endowment....but probably not close enough...will double check later.

_Roy

[Jim Vasil]

Awesome job Roy and Justin!

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[Danella Soeka]

Woo hoo! Bravo guts and thank you for all your hard work to make this happen! 

Danella 

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On Dec 6, 2020, at 11:38 PM, Jim Vasil <jvas...@gmail.com> wrote:



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