Lucid leaving apt.puppetlabs.com

[Melissa Stone]

Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx) will reach end of life on 2015-04-30 [1], so we are no
longer building new packages for it and will remove it from our apt
repository on 2015-06-01.

[1] - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2015-March/000193.html

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Melissa Stone

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[Melissa Stone]

Lucid packages have officially been removed from apt.puppetlabs.com and will no longer be available for download

[Ehsan Foroughi]

Hi

I understand that you won't build new packages any longer. But why are you removing the old packages?

Why can't you keep the packages around? Some of these packages are needed in order to upgrade to a newer release.

Is there an archive server at least where the old packages could be found? Almost all mature open source projects still offer a historical archives of the old packages.

I feel that one thing puppet labs is failing to understand here is how puppet is the perfect technology to update those end-of-life systems and how harmful is this removal of old packages to your own technology that you have built here.

Regards

Ehsan

[Vince Skahan]

Totally agree with those sentiments.....most projects have something ala 'archives.something.com' site with the historical releases.

That said, you 'could' mirrror the puppetlabs stuff with reposync (or .deb equivalent) and set up your local copy to add and not delete anything...

[Ehsan Foroughi]

Going forward we will be doing that. Unfortunately it is too late for lucid. We are already in hot water since the files are already removed and nowhere to be found.

Also the old servers are all pointing to that repo and due to our deployment, we don't have direct access to those servers.

Ehsan

[Christopher Wood]

There's a valuable lesson to be had here on external dependencies in your configuration management deployment. At least you can grep your unpacked rpms and puppet git tree to find any more that may exist?

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 04:24:13PM -0400, Ehsan Foroughi wrote:
> Going forward we will be doing that. Unfortunately it is too late for
> lucid. We are already in hot water since the files are already removed and
> nowhere to be found.
> Also the old servers are all pointing to that repo and due to our
> deployment, we don't have direct access to those servers.
> Ehsan

> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Vince Skahan <[1]vince...@gmail.com>

> wrote:
>
> Totally agree with those sentiments.....most projects have something ala

> '[2]archives.something.com' site with the historical releases.

>
> That said, you 'could' mirrror the puppetlabs stuff with reposync (or
> .deb equivalent) and set up your local copy to add and not delete
> anything...
>

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[Michael Stahnke]

We had been talking about this internally for a bit as well. 

Basically, we have a couple things we'd like to do. 

1. In the Puppet Collections Paradigm, we are no longer removing items.

2. In the old production repos, we will still be removing items (to eventually phase those repos out)

3. As far as an archives server go, we all like the idea. We also haven't had time to do the work yet. I'm not sure when we'll get to it. I'm looking into a few options. 

Mike