Exported resources in Puppet 4 without using PuppetDB?

[Johnson Earls]

Hello all,

I was just wondering - has anyone come across a plugin or something that would allow the use of exported resources in Puppet 4.x without using PuppetDB?  The company I work for has declared PostgreSQL taboo within the corporate network and so I cannot run PuppetDB, and the lack of exported resources is really starting to grate.  I'm hoping someone has seen something out there that can help solve this for me :)

Thanks in advance,
- Johnson

[Lowe Schmidt]

Sorry, but no. I'm quite sure that PuppetDB (and Postgres) is a hard dependency for exported resources. 

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[Trevor Vaughan]

Hi Johnson,

Do you have any information on why PostgreSQL is taboo? It might help to justify supporting additional back-end databases.

To solve your exported resources problem, you can use this as an example https://github.com/simp/pupmod-simp-ssh/blob/master/lib/puppet/parser/functions/ssh_global_known_hosts.rb.

Now, be aware that this will *not* synchronize between multiple servers but, if you have a single master, it will work just fine. Alternatively, if you have a shared filesystem it will also work.

We're working toward revamping these types of items to use a shared synchronization system but it's not high priority at this time since most places can use PuppetDB.

A better bet might be to take this snippet and turn it into something that writes to a DB that you control and then have a Hiera backend that feeds your your data as collected from that backend on a regular basis.

In Puppet functions, you have the entire catalog at your disposal and can do with the data what you will.

Good Luck,

Trevor

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[Johnson Earls]

Trevor: PostgreSQL is considered a competing product.  We're not allowed to use competing products without getting approval from the corporate information security group, legal, marketing, and a high level corporate officer (I don't remember how high off the top of my head, but at least 4 levels above my manager), and it's a process that takes months to go through.

On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 9:50:18 AM UTC-8, Trevor Vaughan wrote:

Hi Johnson,

Do you have any information on why PostgreSQL is taboo? It might help to justify supporting additional back-end databases.

To solve your exported resources problem, you can use this as an example https://github.com/simp/pupmod-simp-ssh/blob/master/lib/puppet/parser/functions/ssh_global_known_hosts.rb.

Now, be aware that this will *not* synchronize between multiple servers but, if you have a single master, it will work just fine. Alternatively, if you have a shared filesystem it will also work.

We're working toward revamping these types of items to use a shared synchronization system but it's not high priority at this time since most places can use PuppetDB.

A better bet might be to take this snippet and turn it into something that writes to a DB that you control and then have a Hiera backend that feeds your your data as collected from that backend on a regular basis.

In Puppet functions, you have the entire catalog at your disposal and can do with the data what you will.

Good Luck,

Trevor

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Johnson Earls <darkfo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello all,

I was just wondering - has anyone come across a plugin or something that would allow the use of exported resources in Puppet 4.x without using PuppetDB?  The company I work for has declared PostgreSQL taboo within the corporate network and so I cannot run PuppetDB, and the lack of exported resources is really starting to grate.  I'm hoping someone has seen something out there that can help solve this for me :)

Thanks in advance,
- Johnson

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[Jo Rhett]

Consider listing PuppetDB as a single application, not as an app and database. Closed box, vendor integrated data management.

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[Rob Nelson]

Agreed: it's a service, you won't be playing with the Postgres nerd knobs very much, if at all.

On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 2:46 PM Jo Rhett <jrh...@netconsonance.com> wrote:

Consider listing PuppetDB as a single application, not as an app and database. Closed box, vendor integrated data management.

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Johnson Earls <darkfo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello all,

I was just wondering - has anyone come across a plugin or something that would allow the use of exported resources in Puppet 4.x without using PuppetDB?  The company I work for has declared PostgreSQL taboo within the corporate network and so I cannot run PuppetDB, and the lack of exported resources is really starting to grate.  I'm hoping someone has seen something out there that can help solve this for me :)

Thanks in advance,
- Johnson

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[Trevor Vaughan]

Fair enough. It's good to know just in case something can be done.

In this case, I don't think there's much of a choice.

However, if it is a competing product, I don't think that the PuppetDB project would reject a PR for support for your internal project. It might be faster than getting approval from on high!

Thanks,

Trevor

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