Don't know what I'm doing wrong, please help!

[Dammie Onafeko]

Hi guys:

A glorious day to you all. I'm trying to instantiate a reverb on two
tracks, so I created an AUx track routed to both audio tracks. I
insert the reverb on the AUx track. Afterwards, I played the tracks,
but I can hear rverb effect. Am I suppose to change the Io or the
output? Please help! I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Thanks!

Best,

Dammie

[Niklas Karlsson]

Hi,

You need to set the input of the AUX track to a bus and then use the sends on the audio track to send the audio to the reverb.
The send must point at the same bus as the input of the AUX track.

In the sends window, you can choose how much of the audio you want to send to the reverb, the more you send, the more reverb the audio gets.

Hope that helps! :)

Best,
Niklas

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[Christopher Gilland]

Niklas,


The way you describe this, wouldn't that also send the dry signal from
the audio track? What if you only wanted to send the trail effects of
the verb, but nothing more. You only wanted to send wet, not dry? Is
that where you change the send on the audio track to prefader instead of
post? I never totally have gotten that concept. I've tried to, but it
just doesn't make sense.


I think where I'm getting confused is, I'm not understanding what is
meant by the send coming before or after the effects chain.


Chris.

[TheOreoMonster]

If I am not mistaken starting in Pro Tools 9 you could just create an AUX track, it automatically does the bus routing for you now. But you want to route the two audio tracks to the AUX tracks and not the other way around. Also PreFader means that the track is sent to the AUX track before the track fader. That means adjusting the track fader won’t adjust the level being sent to the AUX track. In order to adjust the level being sent to the aux track you will have to use the send level. Post fader means that when you adjust the track fader it will also mess with what’s being sent to the AUX track. Sending to the AUX pre effects means the signal is sent to the AUX before any insert FX.

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[Christopher Gilland]

So, what is the difference in using a send on an audio track, sending to
an AUX track, then letting PT do the routing, vs. setting your output IO
of an audio track to a bus, then going to an AUX track, and setting the
input to that same bus, and leaving, on the AUX track, your output IO
set to your main out L/R?


IN other words, what I'm asking is, what's the difference in doing this
with a send, vs doing it via your IO paths without a send involved?


I've seen it done both ways. I know there is a key major difference, and
a reason why you'd do the ladder, but I just can't seem to grasp why?


Chris.

[TheOreoMonster]

When you use a send, you ae sending a copy of the audio signal So in essence you are creating a wet/dry blend. This is useful for things like reverb and delays or other time based effects. When you put the reverb or delay on the aux track, you will want to set it to be 100% wet. Then the send level will act as the wet dry balance. Since the original audio track’s output is still going to the master fader, and the AUX’s output is also going to the master fader, the send level will set how much of that dry signal” gets pushed into the reverb and as a result how much reverb’ed signal shows up in the master fader.
Chaning the output of the track to the AUX or bus, means you are sending all the tracks signal to a bus and not a duplicate of it as you would be if you use a send. A useful example for this use case is lets say you have 5 vocal tracks. You can set the output of those 5 tracks to a AUX or bus, and now you can just EQ and compress all your vocals and use that AUX/Bus fader as a master fader for the vocals. But since the AUX/bus is still being sent to the master fader you still get the vocals in the mix.

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[Dammie Onafeko]

Hi guys:

I did what yo'll told me to do and I can't still hear the reverb. This
is what I have:
a track Connection, another called Radio Effect, and the Aux called Group Verb.
I routed sends oA of Connections and Radio Effect to Group Verb.
Then I go into sends A of Group Verb, VO space on it to open the menu,
and went down to bus 3, 4.
I did same thing for Connections and Radio Effect.
While in the sends menu, I went to the level fader and took it to -15
I don't how to control the dryness and wetness.
When I play the audio back, I couldn't hear the reverb effect. What am
I still doing wrong? Somebody help!

Best,

Dammie

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[Charles]

Hello Dammie

Based on your message, what you are doing wrong is to use the sense in your auxiliary track. Please delete any sense you may have created in your aux track. The only thing you need to do in your aux track is to go into the input menu and select the buss that you are using which could be either one Dash two or 3–4. I assume the reverb you want to use is already inserted in the auxiliary track. then, go back to your audio tracks and make sure that you go into the sends menu and have them go through the same buss that your auxiliary track is using. Here is where you need to adjust the send level to tell ProTools how much of your audio track you want to send to your auxiliary track. I hope that helps.
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[Christopher Gilland]

I see the entire problem.


You're routing is a bit off.


Try this.


1. Create your Connection audio track.


2. Create your radio FX audio track.


3. On your Connections track, interact with sends A/F.


4. On Send A, VO+Space on the top up, and go down to new track. Be
careful here. Not the track sub menu. It's below that. It will literally
say "New Track". This will force ProTools to create the AUX track for
you, with all routing set correctly.


5. Now, go to your Radio FX track. We're almost going to do the same
thing here, but not quite. You now have already set an AUX track, so
interact again with sends A/F, only this time, again, now, we're on the
radio FX track, not the connectionstrack.


6. On Send A of the Radio FX track, go into the popup for send A. This
time, instead of going to new track, go to the tracks sub menu, then
find the AUX track you created in the previous steps. Now, things should
be routed.


7. Now, go rename the AUX track to something more recognizable: "Group FX"


8. Finally, go to the AUX track, and interact with inserts, not sends,
but inserts, A-F. On insert A, instantiate your reverb. We're doing this
on the AUX track, not your two audio tracks. Beware.


There. Now play it back. You should definitely hear the reverb, if you
did this correctly.


On another note for the list entirely, given that he's naming that 3rd
track, "Group FX" it sounds like he's just trying to group both the
audio tracks into one, so he can instantiate reverb across both at the
same time. I could be wrong, so Danny, let us know if I'm incorrect on
this theory.


If that is the case, would it not be easier for him to create an
edit/mix group, then assign both of those audio tracks to that group,
then just apply the reverb to the group? The only thing I could think
that may not work for that method is the fact, if he does it as an
edit/mix group, wouldn't that mean he'd destructively have to print the
verb directly to the track with something like audiosuite? If so, then,
yeah, definitely not probably what he's looking for. I just thought
however I'd mention.


Chris.

[TheOreoMonster]

The steps Christopheroutlined should work. As I stated in an earlier email, Starting in Pro Tools 9 I think it was you could just add an AUX track to the project and then route your Audio/Midi tracks to the aux track with out having to mess with buss routings anymore.

The edit/mix group idea however would not be appropriate in this case.

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[John Gunn]

Hello,

Making this more simple, once youu have the desired plugin on your aux track, on the vocal track or whatever you call it just go under the sends menu, and instead of choosing bus, you can choose tracks under a submenu and choosing the aux track.

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[Dammie Onafeko]

Hi guys:

A happy Sunday to you all. And a happy new month as well. Thanks to
you all for your response. I followed the direction Chris outlined,
and I could hear the reverb a bit. I'm tweaking it now to make it more
effective. And yes, what the direction conveys is what I intend to do.
Again, thanks to you all. Wishing you all the best of November. God
bless!

Regards,

Dammie

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> The steps Christopheroutlined should work. As I stated in an earlier email,

> Starting d just add an AUX track to

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[Dammie Onafeko]

Thanks Nicholas! I get the bus setting of the Aux, but can you use an example to explain this as I’m confused as to whether input or output.of the track I’m sending. Thanks!

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[jimmie smith]

Let me see if I can help you clear this up. Let's think of it this way. You have one audio track. This is the track with all of your noise or information or audio on it.  You could simply insert a reverb on that track. This would solve your problem. But it's much easier on the CPU to create a bus.  Now, create your audio track and create your auxiliary track. This gives you two tracks.  Rename your auxiliary track reverb. We do this, because, it is easier to keep up what each auxiliary track is if it is named something that we can understand.

Now that your reverb auxiliary track is created, we have to figure out what to do with it. Interact with your reverb auxiliary track and go to input selector button.  Vo space on it and select bus.  Now, select bus 1/2 if it is available. If not, select the first one that is available and remember it.

Do not worry about the output. We are only concerned as to what is going into this track. Your output should be set to your settings and preferences. It is usually your master Fater. 

Now, let's deal with the audio track. As you can see if we have made no changes, your audio will play through its output selection of that track. Which again, we usually be your master Fater. But we can tell ProTools to send that audio anywhere we want through sends.  Interact with your audio track and go until you hear sends. Interact with your sins and you will see a list of available sends Select send a if it is not used.  this will bring up a menu of choices. We want to select bus.  Now we want to select the bus which you assigned to your reverb auxiliary track. For example, bus 1/2, bus 3/4.

After doing this, you'll be placed into the send window where you can make your adjustments.  Vo right until you come to your first fader.   This is the fader where you will adjust how much of the signal that will be sent to the reverb bus.

It is important that you place the reverb that you want on the reverb bus before you begin to dial the fader.  my phone number is 256, 493, 7990. I will be glad to help in anyway I can get this resolved for you so you can understand the process.

Jimmie Smith

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