Selecting and nudging: I'm obviously doing something wrong.
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Christopher Gilland
Apr 21, 2020, 1:24:27 PM4/21/20
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OK, maybe I only dreamed that this would actually work? LOL, as it's not
doing so.
So, here's the situation.
I have a session with about 18 tracks in it. Most of them are instrument
tracks with XPand2, although one of them is an instrument track with
Ivory. Then there are a few audio tracks. I don't think that would
matter, but just wanted to throw it out there in case it does.
I'm set to either slip mode, or shuffle mode, depending on what I'm
trying to do through my edit window.
In the counter display cluster, I've set the counter to bars/beats, and
I am using a 4/4 time constant tempo of 80BPM.
So, let's say that I'm on bar 20, and need to select to bar 22. So
basically in other words, I'm wanting from bar 20 to make a 2 bar length
selection. I go up into the track list table, interact, and make sure
the tracks I need are indeed selected. I know about FloTools, but I'm
approaching this as if I were not using it, as not all studios will have
it installed. I hope that's fair enough.
So now, I put my playhead on bar 20. Here's where the problem's coming
in. If there's a better workflow to this, then please tell me, as this
isn't working, what I'm trying. I know, with how I'm set, if I hit
numpad 2 while audio isn't playing, each hit of numpad 2 will take me
forward by 1 measure. And numpad 1 will do the same, taking me backwards
by one measure.
OK, having known that, If I am on bar 20, and need to select to bar 22,
could I not just hold down my shift key, and then do numpad 2 twice?
In other words, does adding the shift key to numpad 1 or 2 not actually
make a time selection on the ruler?
Here's my other question about nudging, and this, you're going to have
to be quite detailed, as I've never done it, so don't have a clue how
to. I don't know even if I first have to make a selection. I know
nothing! about nudging, but now need to.
I have a musician who played guitar on this session. Well, at one point
he strums a chord, but he's maybe like... oh, I dunno, say... half a
beat off. It's not terrible, but it's just enough that it drags things
ever so slightly. He came in slightly too late. So, I want to take that
one strum alone on that one audio track, and nudge it back just a tee
bit, ever, evv'ver, so slightly.
I don't mean nudging back my playhead. I'm literally wanting to take
that piece of audio, and nudge it just a tad back so it fits right over
the first beat of that measure.
Chris.
doing so.
So, here's the situation.
I have a session with about 18 tracks in it. Most of them are instrument
tracks with XPand2, although one of them is an instrument track with
Ivory. Then there are a few audio tracks. I don't think that would
matter, but just wanted to throw it out there in case it does.
I'm set to either slip mode, or shuffle mode, depending on what I'm
trying to do through my edit window.
In the counter display cluster, I've set the counter to bars/beats, and
I am using a 4/4 time constant tempo of 80BPM.
So, let's say that I'm on bar 20, and need to select to bar 22. So
basically in other words, I'm wanting from bar 20 to make a 2 bar length
selection. I go up into the track list table, interact, and make sure
the tracks I need are indeed selected. I know about FloTools, but I'm
approaching this as if I were not using it, as not all studios will have
it installed. I hope that's fair enough.
So now, I put my playhead on bar 20. Here's where the problem's coming
in. If there's a better workflow to this, then please tell me, as this
isn't working, what I'm trying. I know, with how I'm set, if I hit
numpad 2 while audio isn't playing, each hit of numpad 2 will take me
forward by 1 measure. And numpad 1 will do the same, taking me backwards
by one measure.
OK, having known that, If I am on bar 20, and need to select to bar 22,
could I not just hold down my shift key, and then do numpad 2 twice?
In other words, does adding the shift key to numpad 1 or 2 not actually
make a time selection on the ruler?
Here's my other question about nudging, and this, you're going to have
to be quite detailed, as I've never done it, so don't have a clue how
to. I don't know even if I first have to make a selection. I know
nothing! about nudging, but now need to.
I have a musician who played guitar on this session. Well, at one point
he strums a chord, but he's maybe like... oh, I dunno, say... half a
beat off. It's not terrible, but it's just enough that it drags things
ever so slightly. He came in slightly too late. So, I want to take that
one strum alone on that one audio track, and nudge it back just a tee
bit, ever, evv'ver, so slightly.
I don't mean nudging back my playhead. I'm literally wanting to take
that piece of audio, and nudge it just a tad back so it fits right over
the first beat of that measure.
Chris.
Rory
Apr 21, 2020, 2:03:51 PM4/21/20
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If you wish to select from bar 20 to bar 22, could always just go to the edit window, hit numpad slash, type 20, slash, type 22, then hit enter. All on the numpad. I believe that would work. Or do slash slash slash 2 if your playhead is at bar 20. I've never heard anything about holding shift and going by bar to select, will have to try that and see if it works.
To answer your second question, get in slip mode, then hit down and up arrows to select the strum, hit command x to cut, then move your playhead to the beat you wish the strum to be on and paste it there. Should work. May need to use the selection start and end length adjustment commands or whatever to get the entire strum, can't remember those at the moment but I'm sure there in the manual somewhere.
Hope this is helpful.
Rory
> On Apr 21, 2020, at 1:24 PM, Christopher Gilland <clgil...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> OK, maybe I only dreamed that this would actually work? LOL, as it's not doing so.
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To answer your second question, get in slip mode, then hit down and up arrows to select the strum, hit command x to cut, then move your playhead to the beat you wish the strum to be on and paste it there. Should work. May need to use the selection start and end length adjustment commands or whatever to get the entire strum, can't remember those at the moment but I'm sure there in the manual somewhere.
Hope this is helpful.
Rory
> On Apr 21, 2020, at 1:24 PM, Christopher Gilland <clgil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> OK, maybe I only dreamed that this would actually work? LOL, as it's not doing so.
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Christopher Gilland
Apr 21, 2020, 3:03:58 PM4/21/20
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Rory,
I'm aware of cutting and pasting, but I seem to remember there being a
way without that to actually physically nudge a selection back and
forth. Now obviously, if you're not careful, you're nudge can overlap
other audio, and I'm not entirely sure what happens when you run into
that scenareo, would love to know actually.
the reason I don't want to do the cut/paste method is, it's going to be
a little hard that way judging exactly where I need that strum to be
nudged. It's such a minute amount that it would be easier to just nudge
back and keep playing/auditioning until I get the result I need.
Otherwise, I'll be cutting/pasting, undoing, redoing, etc. for quite a
while.
Chris.
I'm aware of cutting and pasting, but I seem to remember there being a
way without that to actually physically nudge a selection back and
forth. Now obviously, if you're not careful, you're nudge can overlap
other audio, and I'm not entirely sure what happens when you run into
that scenareo, would love to know actually.
the reason I don't want to do the cut/paste method is, it's going to be
a little hard that way judging exactly where I need that strum to be
nudged. It's such a minute amount that it would be easier to just nudge
back and keep playing/auditioning until I get the result I need.
Otherwise, I'll be cutting/pasting, undoing, redoing, etc. for quite a
while.
Chris.
Rory
Apr 21, 2020, 3:07:55 PM4/21/20
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What about splitting the guitar strum into its own clip, selecting it and nudging the clip back by a certain nudge value until its where you want it? I think its command numpad plus / minus but you may wanna look that one up.
Rory
> On Apr 21, 2020, at 3:03 PM, Christopher Gilland <clgil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Rory,
Rory
> On Apr 21, 2020, at 3:03 PM, Christopher Gilland <clgil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Rory,
>
>
> I'm aware of cutting and pasting, but I seem to remember there being a way without that to actually physically nudge a selection back and forth. Now obviously, if you're not careful, you're nudge can overlap other audio, and I'm not entirely sure what happens when you run into that scenareo, would love to know actually.
>
>
> the reason I don't want to do the cut/paste method is, it's going to be a little hard that way judging exactly where I need that strum to be nudged. It's such a minute amount that it would be easier to just nudge back and keep playing/auditioning until I get the result I need. Otherwise, I'll be cutting/pasting, undoing, redoing, etc. for quite a while.
>
>
> Chris.
>
>
> I'm aware of cutting and pasting, but I seem to remember there being a way without that to actually physically nudge a selection back and forth. Now obviously, if you're not careful, you're nudge can overlap other audio, and I'm not entirely sure what happens when you run into that scenareo, would love to know actually.
>
>
> the reason I don't want to do the cut/paste method is, it's going to be a little hard that way judging exactly where I need that strum to be nudged. It's such a minute amount that it would be easier to just nudge back and keep playing/auditioning until I get the result I need. Otherwise, I'll be cutting/pasting, undoing, redoing, etc. for quite a while.
>
>
> Chris.
>
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Christopher Gilland
Apr 21, 2020, 3:57:44 PM4/21/20
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Rory,
that's exactly! down to a T what I'm wanting to do, yes.
I know about splitting audio with command+E, but where I get confused is
the commands with the tab key when working with clips.
Let me see if I remember these, and you tell me if I'm off on any of them...
Tab I hear moves to the next region.
Shift tab selects the current region
Control tab moves to the previous region. I'm saying region. Old habbits
die hard. I meant clip, you know what I meant...
Control shift tab moves to and selects the previous clip.
am I remembering these correctly?
I'm so sorry guys! I really feel stupid. I mean, I've been using PT for
almost 9 years now. You'd think by now, I'd at least know how to work
with clips. I'm a little imbarrassed to say, I'm not where I probably
need to be with knowledge on the DAW. I'm getting there, but there are
still these little things like that which can do so much magic, that I
really just have been a bit lazy when it comes to using/learning. It's
about time I quit that, and really buckle down, and I know it.
Anyway, thanks, Rory and others for your help up to this point, and also
for any future responses to this thread. You have no idea how much the
help means to me!
Chris.
that's exactly! down to a T what I'm wanting to do, yes.
I know about splitting audio with command+E, but where I get confused is
the commands with the tab key when working with clips.
Let me see if I remember these, and you tell me if I'm off on any of them...
Tab I hear moves to the next region.
Shift tab selects the current region
Control tab moves to the previous region. I'm saying region. Old habbits
die hard. I meant clip, you know what I meant...
Control shift tab moves to and selects the previous clip.
am I remembering these correctly?
I'm so sorry guys! I really feel stupid. I mean, I've been using PT for
almost 9 years now. You'd think by now, I'd at least know how to work
with clips. I'm a little imbarrassed to say, I'm not where I probably
need to be with knowledge on the DAW. I'm getting there, but there are
still these little things like that which can do so much magic, that I
really just have been a bit lazy when it comes to using/learning. It's
about time I quit that, and really buckle down, and I know it.
Anyway, thanks, Rory and others for your help up to this point, and also
for any future responses to this thread. You have no idea how much the
help means to me!
Chris.
Rory
Apr 21, 2020, 4:06:01 PM4/21/20
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I normally do control tab to go to / select next clip, control shift tab to add the next clip after that to selection and option tab and option shift tab to do the same but previous clips.
If you were to make a selection with down and up arrows and then do command E to make it a clip, that clip would then already be selected so there would be no need to navigate to it with the methods above, unless you like me hit enter without thinking after splitting lol.
Rory
> On Apr 21, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Christopher Gilland <clgil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Rory,
If you were to make a selection with down and up arrows and then do command E to make it a clip, that clip would then already be selected so there would be no need to navigate to it with the methods above, unless you like me hit enter without thinking after splitting lol.
Rory
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> Rory,
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Christopher Gilland
Apr 21, 2020, 4:11:04 PM4/21/20
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Fabulous! Thank you. That's exactly what I was looking for.
Then command+H heals multiple selected clips back as one. Right?
Chris.
Then command+H heals multiple selected clips back as one. Right?
Chris.
Rory
Apr 21, 2020, 7:13:13 PM4/21/20
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Didn't know that, but yeah, it seems to, that or option shift 3. Both seem to work, as far as I can tell.
Rory
> On Apr 21, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Christopher Gilland <clgil...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Fabulous! Thank you. That's exactly what I was looking for.
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Rory
> On Apr 21, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Christopher Gilland <clgil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Fabulous! Thank you. That's exactly what I was looking for.
Slau Halatyn
Apr 21, 2020, 7:54:26 PM4/21/20
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Just to clarify a few things:
Command+h will heal a separation providing nothing about the clip position or the underlying audio position was changed. You can't split a clip, nudge it and heal the separation. Healing is purely for removing a clip boundary where everything about the clips is identical to what the original waveform included.
Shift+Option+3 (on the numbers row) will consolidate a selection into a new clip but that is not the same as healing. It's creating a brand new file.
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Command+h will heal a separation providing nothing about the clip position or the underlying audio position was changed. You can't split a clip, nudge it and heal the separation. Healing is purely for removing a clip boundary where everything about the clips is identical to what the original waveform included.
Shift+Option+3 (on the numbers row) will consolidate a selection into a new clip but that is not the same as healing. It's creating a brand new file.
Rory
Apr 21, 2020, 8:22:33 PM4/21/20
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Good to know slau. Command H was new to me until today. Thanks for clearing that up, I'll keep that in mind.
Rory
> On Apr 21, 2020, at 7:54 PM, Slau Halatyn <slauh...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Just to clarify a few things:
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Rory
> On Apr 21, 2020, at 7:54 PM, Slau Halatyn <slauh...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Just to clarify a few things:
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