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Steve Baskis
Apr 22, 2020, 9:39:18 AM4/22/20
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hello,
I understand this may have been covered before, but I was wondering how to rearrange or move tracks for organizational purposes. What is the procedure to move a track? if I were sighted, I would just click and drag but that is not possible for me ha ha. I vaguely remember how to do this with the keyboard commands. any help would be greatly appreciated.
Respectfully,
Steve Baskis
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I understand this may have been covered before, but I was wondering how to rearrange or move tracks for organizational purposes. What is the procedure to move a track? if I were sighted, I would just click and drag but that is not possible for me ha ha. I vaguely remember how to do this with the keyboard commands. any help would be greatly appreciated.
Respectfully,
Steve Baskis
Baskis.com
Steve Baskis
Apr 22, 2020, 9:41:53 AM4/22/20
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I apologize for the subject grammatical/spelling error.
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> hello,
> On Apr 22, 2020, at 09:39, Steve Baskis <baskis...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> hello,
Rory
Apr 22, 2020, 9:59:44 AM4/22/20
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Move to the track in the list table you want to move, I don't think you need to select it, then press the mouse down voice over command, so vo command shift space, then do vo up until its in the spot you want, should here things like above vocal or something similar, then press vo shift command space to let go and you'll have moved up a track. Works the same to go below just with the down Arrow.
Hope that helps.
Rory
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Hope that helps.
Rory
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Christopher Gilland
Apr 22, 2020, 12:21:13 PM4/22/20
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Rory, you are a lifesaver! I had not asked this on the list, as it was kind of low priority of a question for me, but I had been wondering how to do this actually. Thank you for the clarification, even though you weren't directly responding to me, it really did help.
Chris.
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> On Apr 22, 2020, at 09:59, Rory <rory...@rogers.com> wrote:
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> Move to the track in the list table you want to move, I don't think you need to select it, then press the mouse down voice over command, so vo command shift space, then do vo up until its in the spot you want, should here things like above vocal or something similar, then press vo shift command space to let go and you'll have moved up a track. Works the same to go below just with the down Arrow.
> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ptaccess/B1169950-F6FF-4014-B176-C1D85D2B6AFF%40rogers.com.
Chris.
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> On Apr 22, 2020, at 09:59, Rory <rory...@rogers.com> wrote:
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> Move to the track in the list table you want to move, I don't think you need to select it, then press the mouse down voice over command, so vo command shift space, then do vo up until its in the spot you want, should here things like above vocal or something similar, then press vo shift command space to let go and you'll have moved up a track. Works the same to go below just with the down Arrow.
Slau Halatyn
Apr 22, 2020, 12:26:23 PM4/22/20
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Hi Steve,
Move to the track name in the right column of the Tracks List.
Press VO Shift Command Space Bar to perform a mouse down action.
Navigate with VoiceOver to the track above which you'd like to drop the dragged track.
Press the same keyboard shortcut, VO Shift Command Space Bar, to issue the mouse up action.
Keep in mind that, if no tracks were selected, the track upon which you issued the mouse down action will become selected. If, however, you had multiple tracks selected, the drab would result in all of the selected tracks being dragged into position above the drop point.
HTH,
Slau
Move to the track name in the right column of the Tracks List.
Press VO Shift Command Space Bar to perform a mouse down action.
Navigate with VoiceOver to the track above which you'd like to drop the dragged track.
Press the same keyboard shortcut, VO Shift Command Space Bar, to issue the mouse up action.
Keep in mind that, if no tracks were selected, the track upon which you issued the mouse down action will become selected. If, however, you had multiple tracks selected, the drab would result in all of the selected tracks being dragged into position above the drop point.
HTH,
Slau
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steve baskis
Apr 22, 2020, 12:41:32 PM4/22/20
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Slau,
I am still having trouble for some reason. I feel like it might be a voice over cursor problem and the location of the mouse pointer.
I navigate to the track list and interact with it and move onto the track name in the right column.
When I do the mouse down command, it opens up the plug-in menu, which is not at all where I thought my focus was.
I have tried to bring the voiceover cursor to the keyboard focus and a few other things, with no luck. What may be the problem if anybody has and idea?
Thanks,
Steve
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I am still having trouble for some reason. I feel like it might be a voice over cursor problem and the location of the mouse pointer.
I navigate to the track list and interact with it and move onto the track name in the right column.
When I do the mouse down command, it opens up the plug-in menu, which is not at all where I thought my focus was.
I have tried to bring the voiceover cursor to the keyboard focus and a few other things, with no luck. What may be the problem if anybody has and idea?
Thanks,
Steve
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> Hi Steve,
Rory
Apr 22, 2020, 12:50:00 PM4/22/20
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I've never had that before, try centring the mouse pointer over the track name maybe? Vo command F5 should do this if I remember right.
Rory
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> Slau,
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Rory
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> Slau,
Slau Halatyn
Apr 22, 2020, 12:59:46 PM4/22/20
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Hi Steve,
It certainly seems like it's the mouse pointer not following the VoiceOver cursor. Go to the Navigation category of VoiceOver Utility and make sure "Follows VoiceOver Cursor" is selected for the Mouse Pointer pop-up. Let's see if that was the only issue.
Slau
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It certainly seems like it's the mouse pointer not following the VoiceOver cursor. Go to the Navigation category of VoiceOver Utility and make sure "Follows VoiceOver Cursor" is selected for the Mouse Pointer pop-up. Let's see if that was the only issue.
Slau
steve baskis
Apr 22, 2020, 2:00:06 PM4/22/20
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Slau and everybody,
I have checked those settings, I have even reset all my voiceover settings since I customize a lot of things for one-handed use. Almost lost my left arm during combat Operations in Iraq while serving with the US ARMY. Reason why I am blind. Anyway, I will try to troubleshoot this some more, but something fishy is occurring when I do the mouse down. One thing I’m noticing is, when I do the mouse down it goes to this plug-in menu. After I do the mouse up it seems to be on the keyboard focus. In the tracklist Very confusing and frustrating.
Steve
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I have checked those settings, I have even reset all my voiceover settings since I customize a lot of things for one-handed use. Almost lost my left arm during combat Operations in Iraq while serving with the US ARMY. Reason why I am blind. Anyway, I will try to troubleshoot this some more, but something fishy is occurring when I do the mouse down. One thing I’m noticing is, when I do the mouse down it goes to this plug-in menu. After I do the mouse up it seems to be on the keyboard focus. In the tracklist Very confusing and frustrating.
Steve
Slau Halatyn
Apr 22, 2020, 2:29:15 PM4/22/20
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Hi Steve,
At this point, I'd also make sure that both your Edit and Mix windows are maximized. Flo Tools will do that with Command Option Shift z.
I think I know what might be going on here. Make sure that the Tracks list is actually showing. There was a time when the only way you could see the track list was if it was actually visible on screen. These days, VoiceOver sees it no matter what. And since it's technically not on screen, if you click with the mouse, it's quite possible that you'll be clicking on an insert rather than in the list. So, go to the bottom of the Mix window and VO left until you get to the Tracks List Show/Hide button. If it says it's collapsed, there's your problem. Make sure it's expanded. Give that a shot and let me know if that was the case. If not, I'd be pretty surprised but let's take it from here first.
Slau
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At this point, I'd also make sure that both your Edit and Mix windows are maximized. Flo Tools will do that with Command Option Shift z.
I think I know what might be going on here. Make sure that the Tracks list is actually showing. There was a time when the only way you could see the track list was if it was actually visible on screen. These days, VoiceOver sees it no matter what. And since it's technically not on screen, if you click with the mouse, it's quite possible that you'll be clicking on an insert rather than in the list. So, go to the bottom of the Mix window and VO left until you get to the Tracks List Show/Hide button. If it says it's collapsed, there's your problem. Make sure it's expanded. Give that a shot and let me know if that was the case. If not, I'd be pretty surprised but let's take it from here first.
Slau
Steve Baskis
Apr 22, 2020, 2:55:02 PM4/22/20
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The key command combination to expand the windows is not announcing anything when I press it, is this normal? When I navigate to the bottom of the mix window and click on the tracks list show/hide button there is no indication of it being collapsed, shown or hidden. This seems strange to me when you tell me collapsed is what I might hear. and when I click on that button the tracklist moves deep within the tracks. When I click the tracks high/Show button again the tracklist will be located closer to the bottom of the mix window. I will continue to try things, but this doesn’t seem to work. I am not sure if my windows are expanding, because when I press the flow tools Key combination, command, option, shift, Z, it does not seem to announce anything. Flow tools seems to be working completely fine for me in all other areas.
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Rory
Apr 22, 2020, 5:03:10 PM4/22/20
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What pro tools version are you running? I'm pretty sure the collapsed indication with voiceover on the button was only implemented in 2020.3 so if your on an older version that may be why voiceover doesn't say it.
Rory
> On Apr 22, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Steve Baskis <baskis...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> The key command combination to expand the windows is not announcing anything when I press it, is this normal? When I navigate to the bottom of the mix window and click on the tracks list show/hide button there is no indication of it being collapsed, shown or hidden. This seems strange to me when you tell me collapsed is what I might hear. and when I click on that button the tracklist moves deep within the tracks. When I click the tracks high/Show button again the tracklist will be located closer to the bottom of the mix window. I will continue to try things, but this doesn’t seem to work. I am not sure if my windows are expanding, because when I press the flow tools Key combination, command, option, shift, Z, it does not seem to announce anything. Flow tools seems to be working completely fine for me in all other areas.
> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ptaccess/34BAFA57-BCB3-46A6-9360-E2CA12D5EC04%40gmail.com.
Rory
> On Apr 22, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Steve Baskis <baskis...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> The key command combination to expand the windows is not announcing anything when I press it, is this normal? When I navigate to the bottom of the mix window and click on the tracks list show/hide button there is no indication of it being collapsed, shown or hidden. This seems strange to me when you tell me collapsed is what I might hear. and when I click on that button the tracklist moves deep within the tracks. When I click the tracks high/Show button again the tracklist will be located closer to the bottom of the mix window. I will continue to try things, but this doesn’t seem to work. I am not sure if my windows are expanding, because when I press the flow tools Key combination, command, option, shift, Z, it does not seem to announce anything. Flow tools seems to be working completely fine for me in all other areas.
steve baskis
Apr 22, 2020, 5:22:51 PM4/22/20
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I just did a class with icy music on navigation and pointed out some things to a instructor named Kevin Reeves. He repeated the problems on his computer and system. They seem like bugs from what we discussed and may need to be fixed. Specifically with selecting and deselecting tracks within flow tools and then the use of mouse down and up to move tracks. I am using the latest Apple OS Catalina, the latest flo tools and the latest ProTools application. I challenge anybody on the list to go and try to move tracks with the mouse down and up key commands and voiceover and see what happens. I even used a session template and imported the window settings. Not sure what is going on, I still may be making some sort of mistake. Kevin seem to think I was not and should be sending a message to Slau.
Thanks everybody for your help, will continue to try to work on it.
Steve Baskis
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> On Apr 22, 2020, at 17:03, Rory <rory...@rogers.com> wrote:
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> What pro tools version are you running? I'm pretty sure the collapsed indication with voiceover on the button was only implemented in 2020.3 so if your on an older version that may be why voiceover doesn't say it.
> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ptaccess/C68BCD75-9C4C-4020-8AD2-9246379CB245%40rogers.com.
Thanks everybody for your help, will continue to try to work on it.
Steve Baskis
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> On Apr 22, 2020, at 17:03, Rory <rory...@rogers.com> wrote:
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> What pro tools version are you running? I'm pretty sure the collapsed indication with voiceover on the button was only implemented in 2020.3 so if your on an older version that may be why voiceover doesn't say it.
Rory
Apr 22, 2020, 6:41:11 PM4/22/20
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Strange, I was doing this a little over an hour ago just by coincidence and had no issue.
Rory
> On Apr 22, 2020, at 5:22 PM, steve baskis <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I just did a class with icy music on navigation and pointed out some things to a instructor named Kevin Reeves. He repeated the problems on his computer and system. They seem like bugs from what we discussed and may need to be fixed. Specifically with selecting and deselecting tracks within flow tools and then the use of mouse down and up to move tracks. I am using the latest Apple OS Catalina, the latest flo tools and the latest ProTools application. I challenge anybody on the list to go and try to move tracks with the mouse down and up key commands and voiceover and see what happens. I even used a session template and imported the window settings. Not sure what is going on, I still may be making some sort of mistake. Kevin seem to think I was not and should be sending a message to Slau.
> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ptaccess/54A44897-07E6-407B-BEE5-DBF55E045A6E%40gmail.com.
Rory
> On Apr 22, 2020, at 5:22 PM, steve baskis <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I just did a class with icy music on navigation and pointed out some things to a instructor named Kevin Reeves. He repeated the problems on his computer and system. They seem like bugs from what we discussed and may need to be fixed. Specifically with selecting and deselecting tracks within flow tools and then the use of mouse down and up to move tracks. I am using the latest Apple OS Catalina, the latest flo tools and the latest ProTools application. I challenge anybody on the list to go and try to move tracks with the mouse down and up key commands and voiceover and see what happens. I even used a session template and imported the window settings. Not sure what is going on, I still may be making some sort of mistake. Kevin seem to think I was not and should be sending a message to Slau.
steve baskis
Apr 22, 2020, 10:10:28 PM4/22/20
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I apologize to all, I was wrong and did not update ProTools. Updating ProTools solve the problem. Thanks to everyone who was helping and thanks especially for the help on WhatsApp.
Respectfully,
Steve Baskis
> On Apr 22, 2020, at 18:41, Rory <rory...@rogers.com> wrote:
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> Strange, I was doing this a little over an hour ago just by coincidence and had no issue.
> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ptaccess/4B474677-80DA-45C5-9878-39D05E0B1C52%40rogers.com.
Respectfully,
Steve Baskis
> On Apr 22, 2020, at 18:41, Rory <rory...@rogers.com> wrote:
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> Strange, I was doing this a little over an hour ago just by coincidence and had no issue.
Steve Sparrow
Apr 23, 2020, 5:39:34 AM4/23/20
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this has probably been covered. but when ever I move tracks after opening a session I almost always have to maximise the mix window by hitting the full screen button. Then It usually works fine for me. But i’m ruling protools 19.6 und mojave. using flo tools 20.3.1 or what ever the latest flo tools is.
Steve
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Steve
Christopher Gilland
Apr 23, 2020, 8:46:54 AM4/23/20
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Steve,
That's good to know, since I'm not totally up to date myself for reasons
beyond my control. Thanks for letting us know, as I probably would a
been pulling my hair out otherwise.
Chris.
That's good to know, since I'm not totally up to date myself for reasons
beyond my control. Thanks for letting us know, as I probably would a
been pulling my hair out otherwise.
Chris.
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