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Willy Valenzuela

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May 15, 2019, 7:25:34 PM5/15/19
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Is there anyone out there running plover on a chromebook? is this possible?? i have a pixelbook and im super new to plover and linux. if there is someone out there can you give me a step by step tutorial to install it? please!?

Kyle Mulka

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May 15, 2019, 9:05:21 PM5/15/19
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I haven't run Plover on Chromebook, but I would imagine that you would have to at least put it into developer mode. And, even then, I'm not sure it would be compatible with whatever windowing system the ChromeOS uses. If you really want to use that hardware, it might be easier to install a different version of Linux on it. If someone knows more about this, please chime in.

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Is there anyone out there running plover on a chromebook? is this possible?? i have a pixelbook and im super new to plover and linux. if there is someone out there can you give me a step by step tutorial to install it? please!?

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Kyle Mulka

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May 15, 2019, 9:12:17 PM5/15/19
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Glen Warner

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May 15, 2019, 9:15:13 PM5/15/19
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On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 4:25:34 PM UTC-7, Willy Valenzuela wrote:
Is there anyone out there running plover on a chromebook? is this possible?? i have a pixelbook and im super new to plover and linux. if there is someone out there can you give me a step by step tutorial to install it? please!?

Plover doesn't run on Chromebooks.

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... and you can find the source document here.

--gdw 


 

Willy Valenzuela

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May 15, 2019, 10:24:51 PM5/15/19
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so i saw that website but since im new to linux im not sure which file to download. i think chromebooks are pretty much running linux gentoo. but other than that i dont know what commands to use or which file to install from the plover github


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Chris Mostek

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May 18, 2019, 7:04:44 PM5/18/19
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ChromeOS is/was based on gentoo yes, but it's completely locked down which is part of the appeal of chromebooks, and allows it to "just work". For a while now you've been able to run a debian/ubuntu install with Crouton. which uses a type of virtualization called chroots. And now there's the crostini project which google has recently annouced is maturing and will be on all future chromebooks.  This is exciting because it's a big feature that I've been waiting for and will make chromebooks better for getting work done and I'll have to boot my windows machine less and less.  but.. that's nothing to do with Plover..  so.. 

Below are a couple of links that will give you the info you need about running linux on your pixelbook.. it's done in virtualization but that's going to be the only way to install anything such as Plover. I'm pretty sure there's a deb package for plover on Github so that will make it easier. (Crostini uses a Debian install by default) 

Now, if you really want to use Plover on a chromebook I think the best way would be what some people have called "Plover in the middle"  If you dig through the archives I'm sure there's a mention of it somewhere, but I don't think anyone has ever done a proof of concept.   Previous versions of the Raspberry Pi were unable to emulate a HID keyboard, but people have gotten the somewhat newer pi zero models to work.   So what you could do is put Plover on a Pi Zero with rasbian and follow the example in the link below, and if you're good with python (I'm not) maybe you could even integrate something into Plover.  I think it would be an awesome contribution to the open steno project if people could build their own HID compatible keyboards that would work on any device. 


Good luck!

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Owain

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May 19, 2019, 5:11:23 AM5/19/19
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As Rasp Pis have a video output (and data lines with can drive an LCD text display) this could allow a fairly full-functioning standalone machine to be built, with real-time video output for projection or streaming, LCD  text display for operator interaction, on-board storage of generated text files, and simultaneous direct input of text into another system such as video captioning.

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Willy Valenzuela

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May 20, 2019, 1:04:16 PM5/20/19
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thank you guys so much! looks like I have a bit of a project. I just think the value of a Chromebook for plover would be amazing because Chromebooks are not as expensive as a good working windows laptop...


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Tina Owens

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May 20, 2019, 3:12:02 PM5/20/19
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So what is the best laptop for stenographer and can it be a desktop? Will I have to carry both around the machine and laptop together?

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Kyle Mulka

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May 20, 2019, 6:46:07 PM5/20/19
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The stenographers I’ve see all have both a steno machine and a laptop.

Chris

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Jul 9, 2019, 7:13:25 PM7/9/19
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I'm surprised no one pointed this out but there's a chrome extension that does just this

Chris Gadzinski

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Jul 9, 2019, 8:01:02 PM7/9/19
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Do Chromebooks with NKRO keyboards actually exist?

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Chris Lakin

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Jul 9, 2019, 8:03:24 PM7/9/19
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highly doubt it. I've only heard of high-end razor gaming laptops doing that.
Just get a Georgi or something and plug it in. (With a Georgi you might not even have to use any app at all, I'm not sure if it can be a keyboard on it's own or not)
are you really going to chord on a laptop keyboard anyway lol


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Chris Gadzinski

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Jul 9, 2019, 8:17:56 PM7/9/19
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Right, a lot of community-developed hardware can communicate as a normal keyboard. I suppose those devices could work with StenoKeyboard on a Chromebook.

> So what is the best laptop for stenographer and can it be a desktop?

If StenoKeyboard and Dotterel work as advertised, we can input with Plover on any box that isn't iOS. The cheapest solution would probably an Android tablet. 5 points to whoever gets it working on an e-reader---you know, for writing in daylight.

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Willy Valenzuela

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Jul 18, 2019, 5:16:33 PM7/18/19
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i bought a$20 nkro keyboard on Amazon works great i even removed the keys in not using

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Do Chromebooks with NKRO keyboards actually exist?

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I'm surprised no one pointed this out but there's a chrome extension that does just this
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stenokeyboard-dictionary/neplnmhbihffcipeceghknmcelidhnjc?hl=en

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Is there anyone out there running plover on a chromebook? is this possible?? i have a pixelbook and im super new to plover and linux. if there is someone out there can you give me a step by step tutorial to install it? please!?

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Willy Valenzuela

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Jul 31, 2019, 6:21:31 PM7/31/19
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hey, guys great news I just got plover working on my Chromebook. I was just wondering how would court reporters use plover for their jobs instead of case catalyst or eclipse? Does anyone know? all I can see is the notes that I type but nothing is put into a transcript form. 

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Christopher Lakin

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Jul 31, 2019, 6:30:15 PM7/31/19
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What was the final method you used?
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Willy Valenzuela

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Jul 31, 2019, 7:48:28 PM7/31/19
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Since Chromebooks are able to use Android apps I used crossover. It allows you to use Windows exe files on Chromebook

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Glen Warner

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On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 3:21:31 PM UTC-7, Willy Valenzuela wrote:
hey, guys great news I just got plover working on my Chromebook. I was just wondering how would court reporters use plover for their jobs instead of case catalyst or eclipse? Does anyone know? all I can see is the notes that I type but nothing is put into a transcript form. 

Willy, start whatever equates to WordPad for you and then you should see the English appear.

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Willy Valenzuela

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Aug 2, 2019, 6:34:11 PM8/2/19
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ok, I might actually be able to use Wordpad. I will try and use WordPad with the crossover app as well and see how that works


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