AGU meeting tomorrow, Monday, on what's needed for a healthy climate future

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John Nissen

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Dec 14, 2025, 2:49:54 PM12/14/25
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Hi Peter, 

I noticed that you have organised this potentially groundbreaking meeting.

The current strategy of reliance on emissions reduction, promoted by a powerful environment lobby, is not based on sound science and risks a dismal future for humanity. Emissions reduction cannot lower temperatures, it can only slow the rate of warming and even that is in doubt.

PRAG's conclusion is that powerful cooling intervention is urgently needed to lower temperatures and ensure a healthy climate for the future. 

The planet is already too hot, and emissions reduction won't cool it. Likewise for the Arctic. 

There is already a high risk from the reaching of a point of no return for Arctic meltdown which would commit future generations to abrupt climate change,  ever worsening weather extremes, metres of sea level rise, and mass migration. Absolute misery.

To lower temperatures globally and in the Arctic requires massive cooling power which only SAI can bring: MCB would simply not be powerful enough (assuming it could be made to work effectively) even at the theoretical maximum. I've done the calculations using figures from Stephen Salter.

I cannot join your AGU meeting tomorrow as I've not registered for the AGU conference. But if you could get our message of hope for the future across, the meeting would indeed be groundbreaking.

Cheers John 

https://connect.agu.org/gec/discussion/agu-town-hall-on-monday-what-more-scientists-can-do-to-help-secure-a-livable-climate-future-1 

Ron Baiman

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Dec 15, 2025, 1:54:58 AM12/15/25
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Thank you  Peter (and John),
I hope to be able to attend your 1-2 pm Rm 286-287 AGU Town Hall tomorrow 12/15. 
Folks may also be interested in the GC14A 8:30 am - 12:00 pm poster session on 12/16 on Tuesday where I will presenting this:
 HPAC urgent climate Response working group Poster (co-authored by Mike MacCracken and Gregory Slater).
Best,
Ron Baiman 
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John Nissen

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Dec 15, 2025, 2:54:12 PM12/15/25
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Excellent work, Ron.  Good luck with getting your poster viewed.  Make sure you get contact details of people who visit your poster.  The mistake I made with my AGU poster (over ten years ago) was insufficient follow up.  

Cheers, John


Ron Baiman

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Dec 15, 2025, 8:06:01 PM12/15/25
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My apologies for missing the meeting today Peter! I had three sessions I had to go to today and I just couldn’t fit it in. I hope it went well!
Best,
Ron


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On Dec 15, 2025, at 12:54 AM, Ron Baiman <rpba...@gmail.com> wrote:


Thank you  Peter (and John),
I hope to be able to attend your 1-2 pm Rm 286-287 AGU Town Hall tomorrow 12/15. 
Folks may also be interested in the GC14A 8:30 am - 12:00 pm poster session on 12/16 on Tuesday where I will presenting this:

Ron Baiman

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Dec 16, 2025, 12:03:00 AM12/16/25
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Thanks John!  Will try to do. 
Best,
Ron

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On Dec 15, 2025, at 1:54 PM, John Nissen <johnnis...@gmail.com> wrote:


Excellent work, Ron.  Good luck with getting your poster viewed.  Make sure you get contact details of people who visit your poster.  The mistake I made with my AGU poster (over ten years ago) was insufficient follow up.  

Cheers, John



On Mon, Dec 15, 2025 at 6:54 AM Ron Baiman <rpba...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you  Peter (and John),
I hope to be able to attend your 1-2 pm Rm 286-287 AGU Town Hall tomorrow 12/15. 
Folks may also be interested in the GC14A 8:30 am - 12:00 pm poster session on 12/16 on Tuesday where I will presenting this:
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