[CC][Nomination] Samantha Quiñones

[Marc Alexander]

I hereby nominate Samantha Quiñones for a position on the Core Committee.

She is a well-known speaker and has excellent experience and knowledge in various fields that will enable her to do a great job in the Core Committee and advance the FIG as a whole.

During her duty as a FIG secretary, she has done an excellent job at boosting discussions and resolving conflicts.

Based on this I think that she will be an excellent candidate for this duty.

[Christopher Pitt]

The only concern I have* here is that Graham has also been nominated, and that I don't think it's best for the committee for spouses to be on it together. 

* I love both these people, and I think they're both qualified and fantastic humans. I'd be saying the same thing if any other couple were nominated. Also, isn't Samantha a FIG secretary still? Also, I'm not a voting member so I have 0% horse in the race.

[Michael Cullum]

I was going to address this once Samantha had accepted the nomination however it appears pertinent now. The bylaws say Secretaries can stand in CC elections but they must resign if they are successful.

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Michael C

On 5 Nov 2016 8:18 p.m., "Christopher Pitt" <cgp...@gmail.com> wrote:

The only concern I have* here is that Graham has also been nominated, and that I don't think it's best for the committee for spouses to be on it together. 

* I love both these people, and I think they're both qualified and fantastic humans. I'd be saying the same thing if any other couple were nominated. Also, isn't Samantha a FIG secretary still? Also, I'm not a voting member so I have 0% horse in the race.

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[Samantha Quinones]

Marc, thank you very much. I happily accept.

To address Chris's point, I'm not sure why my relationship with Graham would preclude us both from serving on the core committee. With all due respect (and affection), I reject the notion that two spouses are unable to act independently in a professional capacity. We're no more or less capable of colluding on a vote than any other two people.

If anything, there is less potential conflict here than when Graham represented the PHP League, requiring me to rescue myself from matters involving that group.

As for my current position, if elected I will immediately resign as secretary.

Thanks again,
Samantha Quiñones

On Sat, Nov 5, 2016, 15:18 Christopher Pitt <cgp...@gmail.com> wrote:

The only concern I have* here is that Graham has also been nominated, and that I don't think it's best for the committee for spouses to be on it together. 

* I love both these people, and I think they're both qualified and fantastic humans. I'd be saying the same thing if any other couple were nominated. Also, isn't Samantha a FIG secretary still? Also, I'm not a voting member so I have 0% horse in the race.

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[Adam Culp]

I respectfully disagree with Samantha. While I have the utmost of respect for her and Graham I think she under-recognizes the influence they have on each other from daily contact. Yes, of course two other people are also capable of this level of colluding, but in relationships it is much more likely.

I brought this up (https://groups.google.com/d/msg/php-fig/zodl4m33NzU/HJqThTzHBwAJ) prior to Graham withdrawing the League vote entirely. Whether the two actions are linked or not is coincidental. I feel it is an issue if these two are even a part of the group together, let alone in similar leadership roles. in fact, in the past, by Graham withdrawing i changed my vote for secretary making Samantha my first choice. (see https://groups.google.com/d/msg/php-fig/mfyCwz05RNE/Za1hRB1HCQAJ) Otherwise she was much lower in my list due to the conflict, though I clearly felt she was capable.

I do not feel Graham's nomination should be allowed while Samantha is a Secretary, and a Samantha nomination to the CC should only be recognized if Graham remains an outside contributor.

We've had many conflict of interests this past year in the FIG. We should not continue to make exceptions.

Regards,

Adam Culp

[Brian Teeman]

Surely that is a decision for the voters

[Brian Teeman]

Adam that link point back to this thread

[Adam Culp]

Sorry  about that. Appears that in my posting to multiple similar threads I pasted the link to a thread I'd previously deleted because I wanted to rephase it. (we can't edit posts here)

I will remove the post with the cross link, it is no longer relevant.

Regards,

Adam Culp

[Korvin Szanto]

Errm we can delete posts on google groups at our own discretion? Is there a way to disable that?

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[Michael Cullum]

Korvin,

I don't see an option to prevent deleting own posts, only an option to prevent editing own posts (which is already restricted). If anyone knows how to do this please feel free to ping me or another Secretary in private.

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On 8 November 2016 at 19:51, Korvin Szanto <korvin...@gmail.com> wrote:

Errm we can delete posts on google groups at our own discretion? Is there a way to disable that?

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:37 AM Adam Culp <thege...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sorry  about that. Appears that in my posting to multiple similar threads I pasted the link to a thread I'd previously deleted because I wanted to rephase it. (we can't edit posts here)

I will remove the post with the cross link, it is no longer relevant.

Regards,

Adam Culp

On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 8:26:42 AM UTC-5, Brian Teeman wrote:

Adam that link point back to this thread

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[Adam Culp]

Yes, a person can delete their own posts. Had I been able to edit my previous post I would have had no reason to delete it. I felt that the phrasing I used was not correct to what I truly meant and intended. Therefore I removed it rather than creating fodder for others to be further distracted by the meaningful content of the thread.

Don't worry, you missed nothing by it being removed.

Regards,

Adam Culp